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Had an idea a long while ago, and was re-inspired by that car where I spotted these aluminum hose clamps. He wrapped the curvy piece of plastic on both sides of the back engine bay, by the battery and brakes.
So today I was experimenting with a sheet of CF wrap, from 3M. I found it way too thick to be pliable, and the adhesive barely worked at all... so that was frustrating. Since I couldn't wrap the wrap (LOL) around the edges, I had to use the razor blade. This isn't really a bad photo, but the job isn't perfect, so I'm calling this proof-of-concept, and will have to start over. Probably later this Spring, because it's 20*F today.
I did this indoors, after taking the piece completely apart, degreased, cleaned, dried. And yet the wrap wouldn't stick well. I wonder if I should have roughed up the surface with high-grit?

What do you think? Good, bad, tacky, meh, awesome sauce?
So today I was experimenting with a sheet of CF wrap, from 3M. I found it way too thick to be pliable, and the adhesive barely worked at all... so that was frustrating. Since I couldn't wrap the wrap (LOL) around the edges, I had to use the razor blade. This isn't really a bad photo, but the job isn't perfect, so I'm calling this proof-of-concept, and will have to start over. Probably later this Spring, because it's 20*F today.
I did this indoors, after taking the piece completely apart, degreased, cleaned, dried. And yet the wrap wouldn't stick well. I wonder if I should have roughed up the surface with high-grit?

What do you think? Good, bad, tacky, meh, awesome sauce?
Last edited by Rochester; Feb 3, 2017 at 07:43 PM.
Had an idea a long while ago, and was re-inspired by that car where I spotted these aluminum hose clamps. He wrapped the curvy piece of plastic on both sides of the back engine bay, by the battery and brakes.
So today I was experimenting with a sheet of CF wrap, from 3M. I found it way too thick to be pliable, and the adhesive barely worked at all... so that was frustrating. Since I couldn't wrap the wrap (LOL) around the edges, I had to use the razor blade. This isn't really a bad photo, but the job isn't perfect, so I'm calling this proof-of-concept, and will have to start over. Probably later this Spring, because it's 20*F today.
I did this indoors, after taking the piece completely apart, degreased, cleaned, dried. And yet the wrap wouldn't stick well. I wonder if I should have roughed up the surface with high-grit?

What do you think? Good, bad, tacky, meh, awesome sauce?
So today I was experimenting with a sheet of CF wrap, from 3M. I found it way too thick to be pliable, and the adhesive barely worked at all... so that was frustrating. Since I couldn't wrap the wrap (LOL) around the edges, I had to use the razor blade. This isn't really a bad photo, but the job isn't perfect, so I'm calling this proof-of-concept, and will have to start over. Probably later this Spring, because it's 20*F today.
I did this indoors, after taking the piece completely apart, degreased, cleaned, dried. And yet the wrap wouldn't stick well. I wonder if I should have roughed up the surface with high-grit?

What do you think? Good, bad, tacky, meh, awesome sauce?
3m has a primer that really helps w/ tough contact areas, I had to use it around my little stereo buttons w/ my interior wrap.
For smaller applications like yours 2 or 3 of these little primer sticks should suffice
Sailrite - Fabric, Canvas, and Sewing Machines Since 1969
FWIW I like the look there, nice way to draw just the right amount of attention to that area without being too much.
For smaller applications like yours 2 or 3 of these little primer sticks should suffice
Sailrite - Fabric, Canvas, and Sewing Machines Since 1969
FWIW I like the look there, nice way to draw just the right amount of attention to that area without being too much.
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3m has a primer that really helps w/ tough contact areas, I had to use it around my little stereo buttons w/ my interior wrap.
For smaller applications like yours 2 or 3 of these little primer sticks should suffice
Sailrite - Fabric, Canvas, and Sewing Machines Since 1969
For smaller applications like yours 2 or 3 of these little primer sticks should suffice
Sailrite - Fabric, Canvas, and Sewing Machines Since 1969
Thank you, Brad. That was exactly my intent... enhance and compliment, without becomming a gold tooth. I like how the pattern is in the same theme as the honeycombed center section of the engine cover.
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Great advice, hexotic! 
I took a second pass at this project, this time roughing up the panel with fine-grit, and spraying a few coats of Adhesion Promoter. The vinyl stuck just fine. Then I went over it with the hair dryer and rubbed into it as best as I could. The result is totally acceptable. Better than acceptable, I'm pretty stoked about how it turned out. And this time I went at it expecting to shave with the razor blade. In general, there was just a better comfort zone of improvement over the first attempt.
I've done both panels, cleaned and conditioned the surrounding plastics. Think I'm done with this little project.

And here's a close-up:

Time to order the other hose clamps and play around with that.

I took a second pass at this project, this time roughing up the panel with fine-grit, and spraying a few coats of Adhesion Promoter. The vinyl stuck just fine. Then I went over it with the hair dryer and rubbed into it as best as I could. The result is totally acceptable. Better than acceptable, I'm pretty stoked about how it turned out. And this time I went at it expecting to shave with the razor blade. In general, there was just a better comfort zone of improvement over the first attempt.
I've done both panels, cleaned and conditioned the surrounding plastics. Think I'm done with this little project.

And here's a close-up:

Time to order the other hose clamps and play around with that.
Last edited by Rochester; Feb 5, 2017 at 03:34 PM.
Nice work there John, glad to hear that extra prep paid off, do you have any other little parts you might try that CF on? I know you're not one to go overboard so I doubt you do, just curious
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I'm pretty much anti-CF... real, vinyl or otherwise. Whatever the appeal is, I just don't get it, and for the most part I find the CF look is pretty tacky. When I started pursuing this idea, I was well-prepared to chuck it.
I think the way people like CF, I have a similar reaction to titanium. But that's about as close as I can get to understanding it.
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Just to see, I thought I'd try out the P2M clamps at the filters, inside the heat shield. I thought it might look good in red...
...but I was wrong.
Sending them back, and getting black.
As my Dad used to say, swing and a miss.
...but I was wrong.
As my Dad used to say, swing and a miss.










