Well... I guess you and me both might be in the market for a nice ATS-V or CTS-V who knows and yes it's awesome that they're doing the ATS-V with 6MT that comes with no lift shift and rev matching Yes indeed 455HP is pretty nice, definitely nice cars, both of them, hopefully it will perform very well with that TT V6.

I do not have a family yet but I like my cars with 4 doors because more.... just kidding, I just like to have a bigger/roomier car (sedan/wagon) yet still a sports car so incase of few passengers , I can have 3 them sitting comfortably, and not squeezed together

I will definitely have to drive both, I mean ATS-V will definitely be smaller, yet a more nimble car that will do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds just 0.2 seconds behind the much bigger brother 2016 CTS-V at 3.7... I originally wanted the CTS-V more as it's grown itself a bit of a reputation, but I think if it won't come 6MT this time around, the choice will be simple - ATS-V, if it does, it will be much more difficult

I meannn just look at this thing, the sedan of course

2016 Cadillac ATS-V | Official specs, pictures, and performance | Digital Trends

 

There is one design element about the ATS that I've always liked... The exhaust tips are beautiful. Other than that, the non-V model just doesn't measure up to the car we already have, IMO.

 

Are the newer Caddies coming with push button start? I've grown quite accustomed to this feature.

 

That thing is very sexy. I like it and it should outperform the other cars in its class. The BMW only has 425hp and its starting price is $62,000. The ATS-V is suppose to start at $55,000 so we shall see. Thanks for that link

 

It would most definitely have to be the V variant if I do decide to make the change unless of course Infiniti can make the Q50 Rouge affordable and not $100,000

 

Thanks Brad. Hopefully this coming year wont be as crazy and besides we finally hired extra help so I should have a little more free time.

 

Yes, most Cadillacs have had push button start for several years.

Conventional "Push Button" replaced Cad's old system (EasyKey?) which was a **** in a familiar place on the steering column that you actually twisted slightly to start and shut off the car. No physical key involved, but used the same FOB in pocket, foot on brake principal. The FOB used also adjusted the tilt/tele steering wheel, seat and pedal setting, radio preset and volume level, side mirrors, etc. saved by the FOB user.

IMO, this system made more sense, especially to a driver who has used the twisting key motion at the steering column for 40-50 years, which is a fair percentage of Cadi's target audience. And since this method was more logical and appealing to buyers, Cadillac killed it.

 

Yep.

Back in 1999, I had a friend who's wife was a senior strategy adviser to Cadillac for Booz Allen. She would attend all the stodgy old-boys-club meetings, guiding Caddy towards a more "youthful" market strategy, even while the Cadillac Catera was tanking. Ironically, she was driving a brand new Audi S6 (which was a sweet car), so it was all just a game to her, and she was pretty amused to hear my opinion of Cadillac at the time as a pimped-up, over-priced Chevy... convinced that time would erase those decades old preconceptions.

IDK about that. However, I believe they did become obscenely wealthy. And then this vibrant, educated and socially progressive couple turned into self-absorbed young Republicans almost overnight. It was weird, and more than a little sad. We lost touch.

 

The test drive I had with a 2011 CTS had a standard key. Was this an option rather than standard for the CTS in that generation?

 

Haha! You mentioned the Catera..."The Caddy that zigs." Was the tag-line if I remember correctly. What a steaming piece that car was.

I don't mind the republican part but the self-absorbed part would drive me crazy.

 

Money changes some people. Most people, most likely.

And the Catera... that was a rebadged Opel, IIRC. Not a bad one, too, just neither upscale nor sport-sedanish.

 

I drove in a current model CTS-V (2nd gen?) and man is that car a rocket ship.

Catch is, for me, no way I'd ever use that amount of power, it would only get me in trouble, unless I went to live in a sparely populated area

Don't think I'll ever really go for anything over around 350HP or so, personally I just don't have desire to go quite so fast, but can certainly understand the appeal.

And agreed that the coupe looks pretty awful, looks like it has love handles, too bloated and bulky

 

I didn't realize it was a rebadged Opel. Interesting. They're definitely trying to compete with the new A/CTS-V. With both of those vehicles on deck for '16, Infiniti will need to step up their game.

I'm hoping the Q60 Concept in Detroit gives some clues as to where they're headed with regard to power trains. If it's going to be competitive going forward, they definitely need the TT 3.0L VR30 and make it hybrid. It they could built the VR30 with the same heft and beef that the GT-R's VR38DETT has, they'd have a massively tunable and upgradeable platform.

I like the idea of a TT VR30...You could tune it and massage the turbos and be over 500hp.

 

I feel the same way. The CTS-V is a beast for sure, but more than I can practically use for daily driving in city traffic.

And I think that at some point, I'd have to look beyond the supercharged V8, and I'd be disappointed in the rest of the car. It's just too much. It's too pimp. It's too pimp with a 556hp motor. Some people might be able to go a lifetime of ownership, and never look beyond the motor. I'd be disappointed rather quickly with the rest of the CTS-V.

 

pftttpppppp, you can never have enough horsepower but I get what you guys are saying about street sense ability. With said, the new V's are definitely going to be a car I keep an eye on in the future as the next car in line for me.