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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 03:53 PM
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Sadly, it is not confirmed for production; so we might not be getting the fabled Infiniti GT-R sedan any time soon. Still, we can hope.
I found that it will be released within the next 12 months :/

Makes me think about playing the lottery now once in a while

2014 Geneva Motor Show: Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge to be a performance flagship - NY Daily News
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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So when this comes out, who wants to go half/half on one???
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Nice work Infiniti. Another car out of my reach. God, I should have been born into wealth. I'll pick one up used 10 years from now. LOL

Great car though, truely going to be a force to be reconed with.
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by warped ideas
I'll pick one up used 10 years from now. LOL

Great car though, truely going to be a force to be reconed with.
Good luck with that. You don't seen any FX50 SV editions for sale do you? I have a feeling that because GTR sales are low (due to the steady price climb), they're using the Q50ER to offset engine supply. If that's the case, this thing is going to be +70k, probably verging on $100k and will be in quite a limited supply (~200-300 per year; based on Nissan making ~1500 engines a year).

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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Expect pricing to be in-line with the M5 sedan and performance will be similar. "0-60 in under 4 seconds" translation: 0-60 in 3.9 and no double clutch transmission. It will be extremely heavy too... This is a far shot from GTR performance.

Kudos to Infiniti on the major improvement. At least they brought some boxing gloves this time.
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by IPL 370GT
Expect pricing to be in-line with the M5 sedan and performance will be similar. "0-60 in under 4 seconds" translation: 0-60 in 3.9 and no double clutch transmission. It will be extremely heavy too... This is a far shot from GTR performance.

Kudos to Infiniti on the major improvement. At least they brought some boxing gloves this time.
Without the double clutch, I'm really wondering what they're going to pair it with. Only 3 transmissions in their tool shed can handle this kind of power: GTR double clutch, the SLS double clutch, and the MB 7-Gtronic/MCT.
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 10:39 PM
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I'm guessing that it's a more robust JATCO 7AT. Hopefully the programming isn't a failure.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by crazjayz
Without the double clutch, I'm really wondering what they're going to pair it with. Only 3 transmissions in their tool shed can handle this kind of power: GTR double clutch, the SLS double clutch, and the MB 7-Gtronic/MCT.
Perhaps there are some shipping containers aboard a ship on their way form Affalterbach to Tochigi as we speak? The last time those two were allied with one another the results were devastating. Let's hope for that in a positive way this time.

My vote is for the SpeedShift MCT.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 01:30 AM
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hope the 2.0L turbo makes it to the states.

anyway I thought nissan was going with a hybrid for the next GTR. so why would they use the VR38 in the eau rouge
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 01:47 AM
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Now we're talking. a Q 50 eau rouge is worth looking at. Godzilla is a little rough for my tastes, but "BRIDEZILLA" may be the ticket.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
My vote is for the SpeedShift MCT.
MCT isn't very good in dual clutch terms. I say get the ZF 8 speed and call it a day (I know thats not gonna happen but just saying).

I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm just not sure who the car is targeted to, unless it comes in high $60k low 70k. I'm not trading my M3/RS5/AMG for this at a higher cost. Lexus RC-f/ATS-V currently sell at lower prices and are considered a tier below the Germans and they're at least into their second generations of these types of cars, they've had an opportunity to build a bit of a following. And I'm no brand snob its just that this car steps too deeply into the unknown.

FYI, I know you can option a 335i into the mid 60k's when the M4 start high 60k's but they're still a tier above infiniti
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by blackfunk
MCT isn't very good in dual clutch terms. I say get the ZF 8 speed and call it a day (I know thats not gonna happen but just saying).

I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm just not sure who the car is targeted to, unless it comes in high $60k low 70k. I'm not trading my M3/RS5/AMG for this at a higher cost. Lexus RC-f/ATS-V currently sell at lower prices and are considered a tier below the Germans and they're at least into their second generations of these types of cars, they've had an opportunity to build a bit of a following. And I'm no brand snob its just that this car steps too deeply into the unknown.

FYI, I know you can option a 335i into the mid 60k's when the M4 start high 60k's but they're still a tier above infiniti
I think the target for this car is people who are more interested in the actual car itself and less interested in how it compares to Lexus or [insert German automaker here]. I think pricing will completely depend on what power train is used on the production version, but I think (hope) it will stay well below the 6 figure mark. I think it has to unless it's a very limited production run as something of a test for what Infiniti hopes to accomplish in the performance arena. I'm not a big subscriber to the notion that BMW is inherently better than Infiniti. In some areas definitely, in others they're inferior. So when it comes out I'd consider it but not necessarily in direct comparison to model X, although of course it will be compared to whatever model people feel it's comparable to in one aspect or another. That's only normal to cross shop I guess.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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Just wanted to share the sound: Yes it is absolutely phenomenal.
https://soundcloud.com/infinitinews/...rouge-ready-to
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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Jesus that was good.^^^ videos please! Not in a tunnel or parking garage either. I think if it's priced to high it will not sell. IMO Infiniti doesn't carry the "brand name weight" YET to compete on the level of the Krouts. They are on the right path though!
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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My guess is extremely limited production numbers and ordered by fanboys. If the price tag reached six figures, it's not going to sell well for Infiniti.
If it's based on the Q50, that's 3/4 series size, and I can't imagine Infiniti getting M5 money for something in the 3 series class. I would imagine Infiniti might think of using the higher HP as their selling point to try to capture share from the M3/M4, IS-F, etc.
If they really want to compete with the Germans, they'll need major drivetrain suspension improvements, serious weight reduction( BMW's new carbon technology is no joke) , DCT and help from Getrag on the transmission.
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