All that carbon fiber and V6 twin turbo for low 50k? Lol you wish. The GTR has V6 twin turbo with no carbon fiber and cost over 110k. Lol.

 

There seems to be no reasoning going on in some people's heads.

The notion of a detuned 3.8L variant from the GTR is ignorant. Mostly because they have expressly said that ain't happening. Also because there's only 4 engine builders who build that engine. And for a number of other reasons to any logical way of thinking about it.

Nobody knows what the exact price tag will be when it goes into production but just a little bit of thought makes low $50K sound absolutely ridiculous. Since the regular Q50 already costs that much when well optioned. I guess wishful thinkers would like to believe that a bunch of exterior and interior upgrades and tweaks and a load of carbon fiber are completely free, let alone an all new (to Infiniti at least) forced induction power train. Hopefully Geneva won't let us down but no matter what it has, there will be a lot of people here that complain that it isn't enough, or that if it is enough that it costs too much. That's why opinions are free - because many of them have very little value.

Personally I'm still cautiously optimistic. Mama is looking to probably buy a new car for her (while keeping her G sedan as a daily driver) later this year or possibly early next year. Something a little more upmarket from her G37 sedan but not too expensive. She loves the MB AMG CLA45 and it is an absolute beast power wise. Stage I chip tunes are netting 400+ HP from that beastly turbo'd 4 banger but everything I've seen says the ride is not refined or outright harsh. So I'm looking for alternatives and have not ruled out the Q50. She rode in one with a colleague who had it as a loaner while his G was in the shop and loved it. If this Eau Rouge turns out to live up to it's potential and doesn't quite venture into GTR territory performance or price wise, it's a contender.

 

Everyone in corporate I speak to is telling me this car is definitely coming.
We'll see what happens in final production, but if it doesn't keep up with the M3/M4 we are screwed.

Hopefully we drop the lackluster IPL line and start making more high performance luxury machines.

 

People are quick to jump the gun, maybe because buying a performance car is such an emotional event? I listened to the sound clip and it sound like a turbo VQ to me. It could be the MB CLA turbo engine making that sound clip, who knows? People think a detuned GTR engine is out of the question, but why? Nissan already have the engine, detuning it and use lower cost components for the lower power rating would be cheaper. GTR are built alongside 370Z anyway, how hard you think it would be for Nissan to incorporate the detuned engine to the assembly line? Remember only the engine is going into the Q50, you do not get a whole GTR drive-train.

As for price, it could “start” at low 50K and shot up from there. Long shot? not really, look at MB AMG CLA45 price start at low 40K and look where it is ended. Everyone seems to think that show car is going to turn up at the dealer with that interior and CF? Dream on pals!
One think I agreed on is most of these internet chit chat are bs guessing. Only Geneva will reveals the facts.

 

Agreed with the others that think its a TT VQ. It just makes more sense.

It'd also be nice to see logical marketing call it a Q50R.
Let's hope it drops steer by wire and it ups the suspension game a bit.

Just my 2 cents.

 

Why no VR38DETT? 1) becasue they said so and 2) I don't think it's as feasible as you seem to think. There are 4 guys who hand build that engine. 4. They probably already work 6.5 days a week to build enough for global GTR sales. If you make it a production line engine it loses its cache. Why use cheaper lesser parts on the best engine in your lineup when it's not necessary? 3) What's the point of detuning an existing halo car powerplant? Possible, but I don't think they'd do it.

I didn't pay attention to your "start at" comment about $50K. That makes a difference. I still don't think so. Why not? Look at what the Limited Edition Vettel FX costs compared to the regular one. $155K. I love me some Vettel but that's ridiculous. If it "starts at" less than $60K I'd be shocked. Less than $65K I'd be pleasantly surprised.

Why no CF? The aforementioned CLA45 AMG has options for pretty much the exact same CF inside and out. I don't know that the production car will be equipped exactly as the concept, but usually when the concept is a pretty normal car and not some futuristic impractical show piece, I'd bet the one in showrooms is going to be pretty damn close.

Can't wait for Geneva!

 

I could turbo an 02 Altima V6 and it would still provide more steering feel than this car will... and for a lot less money.

I don't have a ton of faith in this car but the steering system is a serious let down. We will just have to see what Geneva brings.

 

Hahah and that FX only had 5.0 390 HP ... No twin turbo.. Imagine the price tag on this one! !

 

I saw this car last month at NAIAS, and it's much better in person than the pics I'd see going into the show. The most impressive thing (which pics don't really convey) is how "wet" the red paint looks on this car. It's truly a site to see!

 

OK... Honestly - this doesn't really have to do with the Q50ER ... But I was just glancing over MB's/Infiniti's website... and a 'base' model CLA450 AMG is priced @ 48k while the IPL is priced @ 52k and I just WONDER why people have bought the IPL when the AMG is lower priced, (without options) - and produces more power... (by an insignificant margin) but still?

Now.. I'm not the most informed on everything, but Infiniti has some serious work to do if they ever want me to consider an IPL over an 'affordable' AMG.

But I do love this Q50ER, I really do. It's beautiful. But if it comes down to the Q50ER/C63/M4 category... I'm choosing either an AMG or M4 unless Infiniti really wows us.

 

I really like this new look, I just wish they gave it a bit more options. Like someone else said, less teasers and more product.

 

eww rouge lol, its a very nice design, as black betty pointed out they did slap pn quite a bit of quality carbon fibre, the overall design looks very aggressive, and i like the red and CF mix on the car design. i've seen full pics of it, & it will give good competition to those european cars out there, but i much prefer the old school v35,36 G design as opposed to this design. namely the front headlights and grill and the rear lights arent my style i like the 4 circular rear lights that the skyline has always been known for

 

Lexus, yes Lexus currently builds sportier cars than Infiniti - let that sink in. They've struggled with the LF - vs the M's, CTV's, AMG's and S/RS of the world, and not for lack of performance but brand cache - Infiniti has even less. Who's their traget audience?
Not saying they don't have to start somewhere but the Q50 hasn't been well received and they're no longer battling on price - their value advantage has more or less evaporated with the redesign.
Here's how it works in real life - at these levels badges matter people spending 60k are less sentive to price differences of say 5k than people shopping at 40k - ie no one spending 180k on an S63 Benz is really concerned about an additional 20k for a Bentley - they're getting a Benz because they want a Benz - period. I'm not old or rich enough to have developed a following for any one particular brand but bet you bottom dollar at these levels I want bragging rights and not 'Well I did save 5k' my accountant might be happy, my wife might be happy - more shoes, bags etc - but lets be honest this is a D1ck measuring contest at these levels so they'd better not bring an IPL to a gun fight.

 

Key words "without options". I think I priced out a fairly loaded AMG CL-A and I was close to 60K! For a "compact car"? Thanks but no thanks.

Buy a Focus ST do some cheap mods to it and for half the price of the Mercedes you can blow it away.

 

But you lose the warranty, the nicely done interior, the resale value and most importantly you'll never have the badge - it really does count for something.