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Hey George,
I just got my P21S Concours Paste Wax and Natty's Blue Paste Wax in the mail, my question is; which would you recommend best on a black 08 Z06?
Question #2, I use CG Citrus & Gloss; how much is an ounce? would it be a pea, dime, or nickel size?
Question #3, For a lightly swirl black Z06, what pad/compound would do the job?
thanks
Loi
I just got my P21S Concours Paste Wax and Natty's Blue Paste Wax in the mail, my question is; which would you recommend best on a black 08 Z06?
Question #2, I use CG Citrus & Gloss; how much is an ounce? would it be a pea, dime, or nickel size?
Question #3, For a lightly swirl black Z06, what pad/compound would do the job?
thanks
Loi
I think both would look great on the black Z06. Natty's Blue does a great job bringing out more of the wet look on darker colored vehicles. P21S may offer sharper reflections and is easier to apply and remove. It really comes down to preference and time.
An ounce is a little less than a shot glass, which is about 1.5 ounces. If you're using pea sized drops, you're certainly not stripping off your wax, but chances are you aren't getting too much cleaning ability either because you aren't using enough shampoo. To strip off protection, the bottle of CWG says to use 2 ounces per gallon of water, so in 4 gallons of water, you'd want to use 8 ounces of product, half of the 16oz bottle for a single wash. CG recommends .5 ounce of product per gallon of water for regular maintenance, so somewhere between 1 - 2 ounces of product in a 5 gallon bucket of water is what you want to be using.
Unfortunately, Corvette paint is one of the hardest paints on the market and is difficult to correct. You always want to start with the least aggressive option to get the job done, so as Blackjack mentioned, you may want to try a white pad with PO106FF in a small area, then assess your results. If that doesn't do the trick, I'd try Super Intensive Polish with a white or green pad, then if you have to move up to an orange pad, you're looking at doing 2 steps. If you have access to Power Finish, you could try that as well with a white or green pad.
Hope this helps.
George
cleaning undercarriage
Just sold a 10 year old auto before getting my new G37x. Kept the body and interior in good shape, but when the buyer had it put up on a lift for inspection, the undercarriage had major rust. I thought I had been doing a good job of rinsing it, but obviously not. I want to take care of my new 37x a whole lot better.
What’s the best way to keep the undercarriage clean other than going through a car wash (won’t do this) or putting it on a lift or a pit (can’t do this)? I'm trying to avoid rolling under there with the hose and splashing road muck in my eyes and down my throat. Are there special undercarriage hose nozzles? Do I need a pressure washer to do the job right?
What about rubberized sprays like Sprayway Auto Body Under-Coating, Wurth Stone Guard Black, or Bare Bones Undercarriage Spray? Any good ? And how do you apply these without a lift or a pit?
I hate winter.
Thanks.
What’s the best way to keep the undercarriage clean other than going through a car wash (won’t do this) or putting it on a lift or a pit (can’t do this)? I'm trying to avoid rolling under there with the hose and splashing road muck in my eyes and down my throat. Are there special undercarriage hose nozzles? Do I need a pressure washer to do the job right?
What about rubberized sprays like Sprayway Auto Body Under-Coating, Wurth Stone Guard Black, or Bare Bones Undercarriage Spray? Any good ? And how do you apply these without a lift or a pit?
I hate winter.
Thanks.
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Just sold a 10 year old auto before getting my new G37x. Kept the body and interior in good shape, but when the buyer had it put up on a lift for inspection, the undercarriage had major rust. I thought I had been doing a good job of rinsing it, but obviously not. I want to take care of my new 37x a whole lot better.
What’s the best way to keep the undercarriage clean other than going through a car wash (won’t do this) or putting it on a lift or a pit (can’t do this)? I'm trying to avoid rolling under there with the hose and splashing road muck in my eyes and down my throat. Are there special undercarriage hose nozzles? Do I need a pressure washer to do the job right?
What about rubberized sprays like Sprayway Auto Body Under-Coating, Wurth Stone Guard Black, or Bare Bones Undercarriage Spray? Any good ? And how do you apply these without a lift or a pit?
I hate winter.
Thanks.
What’s the best way to keep the undercarriage clean other than going through a car wash (won’t do this) or putting it on a lift or a pit (can’t do this)? I'm trying to avoid rolling under there with the hose and splashing road muck in my eyes and down my throat. Are there special undercarriage hose nozzles? Do I need a pressure washer to do the job right?
What about rubberized sprays like Sprayway Auto Body Under-Coating, Wurth Stone Guard Black, or Bare Bones Undercarriage Spray? Any good ? And how do you apply these without a lift or a pit?
I hate winter.
Thanks.
I've never used one of the rubberized coating products, so I cannot comment on how good or bad they work. CG Bare Bones is more of a degreaser that will leave behind a nice finish and help protect to the elements to some extent. I use it for the undercarriage, wheel wells, and in the engine bay myself.
Sorry I don't have a better answer for you on this one. If you find a technique that is easy to use, keep as all posted.
George
As you have recommended purchasing new pads when changing products, how many pads should I be buying? I am looking at the 4” variety.
So how many white, yellow or oranges should I be getting? Should I change from 4” to 6”?
Thanks again!
So how many white, yellow or oranges should I be getting? Should I change from 4” to 6”?
Thanks again!
Alex,
Good questions. Hands down when using a buffer, I've yet to find a product line to perform better than the Menzerna line of polishes. Their nano polishes are designed to correct ceramic clear coats, but they work just as effective on non ceramic clear coats as well. I'd highly recommend looking into Super Intensive Polish and the PO106FF as one of the best 2 step polishing combinations.
When using pads with polishes, you always want to designate certain pads for specific products. If you want the best results, invest in some new pads to go along with the new polishes. I never recommend mixing and matching pads with various products as it's nearly impossible to clean them 100% and the remains of one product could effect the performance of the product you're applying. I'll typically use orange light cutting pads with the SIP and white polishing pads with the PO106FF. It depends on the severity of the imperfections though, you could always tweak the pad combination to meet your needs.
If you have any other questions on anything, please do not hesitate to ask. I think you'll be quite pleased with that combo over the Sonus polishes you've used in the past. If you get a chance to try the Menzerna polishes, be sure to keep us updated on your thoughts.
Cheers,
George
Good questions. Hands down when using a buffer, I've yet to find a product line to perform better than the Menzerna line of polishes. Their nano polishes are designed to correct ceramic clear coats, but they work just as effective on non ceramic clear coats as well. I'd highly recommend looking into Super Intensive Polish and the PO106FF as one of the best 2 step polishing combinations.
When using pads with polishes, you always want to designate certain pads for specific products. If you want the best results, invest in some new pads to go along with the new polishes. I never recommend mixing and matching pads with various products as it's nearly impossible to clean them 100% and the remains of one product could effect the performance of the product you're applying. I'll typically use orange light cutting pads with the SIP and white polishing pads with the PO106FF. It depends on the severity of the imperfections though, you could always tweak the pad combination to meet your needs.
If you have any other questions on anything, please do not hesitate to ask. I think you'll be quite pleased with that combo over the Sonus polishes you've used in the past. If you get a chance to try the Menzerna polishes, be sure to keep us updated on your thoughts.
Cheers,
George
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How many times can u polish a car before running out of clear coat?
P.S
What is the difference between a rotary buffer and a random orbital buffer?
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What is the difference between a rotary buffer and a random orbital buffer?
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Wet sanding and compounding will remove the most clear coat.
How long do you plan on keeping the car for? If it's 3 - 10 years, chances are you can polish as much as you want during that time and not run out of clear (again assuming you're polishing correctly and minimizing how aggressive you go each time).
In the short, rotary buffers spin continuously in 1 direction, which can generate a lot more heat than a random orbital which oscillates and does not spin. Rotary buffers can potentially burn through the paint if used improperly, random orbitals typically have very little risk of damaging the paint. If you're asking this question for yourself, you want a random orbital buffer.
If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
George
What are swirls marks exactly? I know they are caused my improver washing and drying but they seem to be too perfect of circles to be caused by the motion of my hand. How deep r they in the clear coat?
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Thanks Jeremy for posting up the pics.
George
In fairness to Betty, she asked me to post the "after" photo from that detail:

Can't wait to get the Flex in to get even more correction for the stuff that the PC just couldn't quite make perfect.

Can't wait to get the Flex in to get even more correction for the stuff that the PC just couldn't quite make perfect.
hey can yall help me out. Can you give me some suggestion on IP. also what yall use. This is what i bookmark so i can get all at the same time after i ask yall.
Car Soap: CG Citrus and Gloss
Claybar: chemical guys fine grade clay bar
Polish (light cutting): Menzerna PO106FF
Polish (medium cutting): Menzerna IP
Polish (heavy cutting):
Glaze: Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze
Sealant: Menzerna FMJ
Wax:
Tire Dressing: Blackfire Tire Gel
Wheel Sealant:
Interior Protectant:
Leather Care: Lexol
Quick Detailer: Poorboy spray and gloss
Glass Cleaner: Stoner's Invisible Glass
i also got the PC 7424 starter kit. all from detailed image.com
you think you can teach or tell me what steps i need to take and etc. what do i use for Clay bar lube cause i got the chemical guys luber or whatever. Im about to get a professional detail and after that i wanted to start washing my car the right way and detail myself instead of paying the 300 for full interior and exterior detail
Im order all this and more at the same time after i get my Pro Detail. Total for everything came up to 540 without shipped
haha so im order it soon
Car Soap: CG Citrus and Gloss
Claybar: chemical guys fine grade clay bar
Polish (light cutting): Menzerna PO106FF
Polish (medium cutting): Menzerna IP
Polish (heavy cutting):
Glaze: Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze
Sealant: Menzerna FMJ
Wax:
Tire Dressing: Blackfire Tire Gel
Wheel Sealant:
Interior Protectant:
Leather Care: Lexol
Quick Detailer: Poorboy spray and gloss
Glass Cleaner: Stoner's Invisible Glass
i also got the PC 7424 starter kit. all from detailed image.com
you think you can teach or tell me what steps i need to take and etc. what do i use for Clay bar lube cause i got the chemical guys luber or whatever. Im about to get a professional detail and after that i wanted to start washing my car the right way and detail myself instead of paying the 300 for full interior and exterior detail
Im order all this and more at the same time after i get my Pro Detail. Total for everything came up to 540 without shipped
haha so im order it soon


