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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
My intentions are to go with Z1's "sprinkle slot" design. I'm not too fond of drilled rotors, I think they look a little much. And I'm not into directional slots because my Vossens already have a directional consideration to the spokes, and that would be too many things going on. So... sprinkle slot it is.

I just wish they didn't call it sprinkle slot. Sounds kind of lame out loud.
That's a good point on the design of your wheels. I never even thought about that. It doesn't even look like they offer regular slotted rotors anymore. Don't worry about the name of the "sprinkle slotted" rotors. That just makes me hungry for donuts.

Originally Posted by projectpanda13
For me, when I mention steering, it mostly the ease/effort required for turns. I noticed it when I went from the stock duckfeet wheels 24lb/25lb to lighter 20lbs/22lbs wheels. Then another change when I switched the rotors. But it could also be in my head. lol.

Z1 sent me the wrong rear hat (2015+ q60 i think) which were larger and I had adjusted the shoe all the way out. When I exchanged it for the correct one, I had to readjust everything. But I'd feel there's no need for adjustment unless your current brake shoe is super worn and the pushed out further.
I am amazed you noticed a difference in ease of turning on the street with a 4lb. change in wheels. I would think that would have more to do with the tires. Your "butt dyno" must be more highly calibrated than mine.

That is good to hear on the e-brake with the Z1 2pc. rotors. Can you adjust the e-brake without taking off the rear rotors?
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Old Sep 9, 2019 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 4DRZ
I am amazed you noticed a difference in ease of turning on the street with a 4lb. change in wheels. I would think that would have more to do with the tires. Your "butt dyno" must be more highly calibrated than mine.

That is good to hear on the e-brake with the Z1 2pc. rotors. Can you adjust the e-brake without taking off the rear rotors?
Sorry Rochester for adding so many posts to you thread.

But you can adjust the e-brake without removing the rotors. There is a hole on the hat that once you line it up with the gear, you can adjust it through that. You'll have access to it since you'll be swapping the rotors anyway.


That's a video I posted for some one asking about e brake adjustment.

I'm actually very numb to changes and most of the time its in my head, but maybe because i put a lot of emphasis/attention on steering when I drive cars (noticing slop and tightness) I picked up the change on mine. I didn't feel acceleration differences. Shoot, I didn't even notice a difference going from cats to test pipes. lol
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Hexotic shopped up this image to show me what my car would look like with metallic orange calipers.

So I thought I'd put it here to forever drive me nuts until I actually do something. It's a great look, IMO.

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Would look pretty cool

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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 11:53 AM
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Hexotic shopped up this image to show me what my car would look like with metallic orange calipers.

So I thought I'd put it here to forever drive me nuts until I actually do something. It's a great look, IMO.
Just do a few track days with race pads and the heat will naturally turn your calipers that color- easy!
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 4DRZ
Just do a few track days with race pads and the heat will naturally turn your calipers that color- easy!
Not in my list of worries, but I'll keep that in mind because never say never.

The only track events I've ever seen with this car are two auto-x events (cones in a huge parking lot). That was years ago.
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 05:06 PM
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Planning 2020 for brakes is weighing pretty heavy on my brain... thanks for nothing, Hexotic.

I'll be thinking about what to do (if anything) with the new 2-piece rotors before they go on the car. And one of my ideas is to have the centers powdercoated in some kind of gunmetal color, like Black Chrome. This irrespective of any eventual color for the calipers. I think the hats would look great in gunmetal, instead of basic black. And being 2-piece rotors, should be easy enough to do. Just unbolt the discs and give the hats to the painter.

Then again, basic satin black is clean. IDK, just thinking aloud.

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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 05:08 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Planning 2020 for brakes is weighing pretty heavy on my brain... thanks for nothing, Hexotic.

I'll be thinking about what to do (if anything) with the new 2-piece rotors before they go on the car. And one of my ideas is to have the centers powdercoated in some kind of gunmetal color, like Black Chrome. This irrespective of any eventual color for the calipers. I think the hats would look great in gunmetal, instead of basic black. And being 2-piece rotors, should be easy enough to do. Just unbolt the discs and give the hats to the painter.

Then again, basic satin black is clean. IDK, just thinking aloud.

The black does look really nice on our cars. Keep in mind that the inner part of the rotor is also black as well as the slots so a different color on just the hats may look a bit strange. Also, your wheels will cover about 75% of the hat when they are bolted up so all you will really see is the section that angles down to the mounting hardware. Bone stock these rotors already look about 9,000 times better than the stock rotors.
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 4DRZ
Also, your wheels will cover about 75% of the hat when they are bolted up so all you will really see is the section that angles down to the mounting hardware.
Well, that's true, and more so with my Vossens. 10-spoke wheels put the brakes more in the shadows than a 5-spoke would. Also, I'm concerned about how well the powdercoat and clearcoat would hold up without chipping at the nuts & bolts on the rotors.

I wish Z1 would offer color options on the hats. I think I'd give silver a strong consideration too.

IDK. I've got all winter to think about it.
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Hexotic shopped up this image to show me what my car would look like with metallic orange calipers.

So I thought I'd put it here to forever drive me nuts until I actually do something. It's a great look, IMO.

I got my car with my calipers powder coated orange. It definitely stands out against our white cars. My bronze (mustard) wheels take away from the orange calipers but your wheels are a good contrast.







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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 08:57 AM
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Thanks, Panda! I also prefer the black INFINITI decals you chose, over the Akebono decals that are pretty common with this mod. I think the Infiniti decals say OEM.

For the longest time, (years now), I've been planning on a metallic yellow. Specifically, the Acura Rio Yellow Pearl. But now I find myself convinced that metallic orange is the way to go with my Moonlight White car.

There's a shop here in Rochester which will paint calipers while still on the car. Obviously it's not a powdercoat. And as 4DRZ would be the first to point out, obviously it's not intended to hold up on the track. But this shop works on really high-end cars, and have been doing it for many years, so they have skills with their technique. If this ever happens, it's probably what I'll do.

And you're right, orange calipers do not play well with bronze wheels. Sorry. Black or gun-metal sure would though.
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Old Sep 12, 2019 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Obviously it's not a powdercoat.
A few intense track days, 2 salty winters, and I have hairline cracks on 2 calipers on the powder coat. Don't know if they screwed up the application, but high heat paint would probably be holding up better.
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Old Sep 13, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Planning 2020 for brakes is weighing pretty heavy on my brain... thanks for nothing, Hexotic.

I'll be thinking about what to do (if anything) with the new 2-piece rotors before they go on the car. And one of my ideas is to have the centers powdercoated in some kind of gunmetal color, like Black Chrome. This irrespective of any eventual color for the calipers. I think the hats would look great in gunmetal, instead of basic black. And being 2-piece rotors, should be easy enough to do. Just unbolt the discs and give the hats to the painter.

Then again, basic satin black is clean. IDK, just thinking aloud.

mmmmmm.....sprinkles
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Old Sep 13, 2019 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Also, I'm concerned about how well the powdercoat and clearcoat would hold up without chipping at the nuts & bolts on the rotors. I wish Z1 would offer color options on the hats. I think I'd give silver a strong consideration too.
You should be ok on the powdercoat holding up near the nuts and bolts because the hat should not move at all once it is attached. The only issue I could see would come from being really sloppy putting the rotors together. I cannot see you having that issue and the bolts go in the back side of the rotor so even if you did majorly slip the wrench it would still not scratch the painted front of the hat.

Why do you want to paint the hats so bad? I think silver would blend in with the rotors too much. I think black is a nice contrast on our cars, especially if I do end up going with black caliper paint (leaning that way).

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Obviously it's not a powdercoat. And as 4DRZ would be the first to point out, obviously it's not intended to hold up on the track. But this shop works on really high-end cars, and have been doing it for many years, so they have skills with their technique.
I don't think you will have to worry about heat from the track. Even if you get frisky and decide to do an autocross, I doubt your calipers would get hot enough to fade the paint. Even if you did heavy duty braking at high speed tracks I think the bronze color is the color they tend to fade to anyway. Just look at my front calipers after a number of track days with race pads. Free bronze caliper painting.




Originally Posted by hexotic
A few intense track days, 2 salty winters, and I have hairline cracks on 2 calipers on the powder coat. Don't know if they screwed up the application, but high heat paint would probably be holding up better.
That is interesting to note. I had a local powdercoating company tell me that their powedercoating holds up just fine to track days. I guess not.
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Old Sep 13, 2019 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 4DRZ
Why do you want to paint the hats so bad?
Why do anything? Because hobby. It's something I can roll around in my head, that's all.
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