Now that comment could be viewed as bandwagon jumping....

 

No need... I trust Forged just as a long list of other extremely satisfied customers do.

Exactly my point... Childish if you ask me.

 

Sharif, I still question your claim that Juan stated he did not create his username here. As I stated yesterday, it was created in September of 2008. Most posts were about the original build in November of 2008. So, how is this explained? Knee jerk reaction to having a phone call from an attorney?

Juan stated, and I confirmed this, that your attorney demanded that he REMOVE the theads, not edit them. So what is the truth?

Also, can you please tell us what "2-3" bullet points you feel are untruthful? One I see is that you never stated you would use "junkyard parts". What would the others be? I think all of us who are grasping at the insanity of a client being sued for telling their story would feel much better knowing what you feel is acceptable in Juan's thread and have a bit of clarity.

Thank you for your response.

 

You are sounding more and more like the person that made Juan's original review thread post.

False points:

1) Offer of Junkyard parts
2) Engine "blew up on the dyno from tuning". Fact...did not blow up on dyno, and pictures show no evidence of poor tuning. Nothing blew up.
3) Juan didn't illegally remove his car from my lot: Fact: He tricked my guys into giving him the key, and he drove off without paying
4) He never wanted a built shortblock, and was forced to do so. Fact: He was given the option of no charge for an OEM engine repair, or parts only for a forged S1 build.

That about covers the false statements we are trying to correct. So maybe you can log into his account and fix it.

Edit: Sorry I misspoke. The username was not recently created, but the username and password was given to a third party to blast away at Forged.
Edit again: Actually someone did create Juan's SN on my350z.com to post the same review: juang37
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Wow at the bold. Hang tight, let me log in and fix it up for ya.

Thank you for your response. So, I guess Juan can expect a call tomorrow from your attorney with an amended phone conversation stating "we don't want you to take it down...we want you to amend X bullet points?"

Edit - Just reread your edit. So you misspoke about Juan telling you (first time you mentioned it) and then your attorney (second time you mentioned it) that he didn't create this username? Misspoke? TWICE? So many holes...

 

I still want to hear (and see) Mike's questions answered. I really really want to hear what dpjones has to say. And BJ question about 'why everyone feels they have to be a part of this'... it's a forum.

If you ask me, there are not enough of these threads. Bad experiences, crappy service and poor quality parts are happening all the time but people are not posting them. (I'm guilty of this as well.)

 

This reminds me of Tiger Woods.

 

I actually agree we should post the good and the bad. Post and move on. However, it always turns into an emotional debate. People claiming "facts" that are not "facts". And this was posted long time ago already, but at least this time with some additional material. And yes I would like to hear the other's experiences, but could do without all the added BS.....but like you said it is a forum.

And the forum BS seems to swing quickly....almost a mod mentality. For example go read the original thread from the OP and most people jumped on him. This time it is swinging the other way.....so this forum swings both ways.

 

Maybe IB/mod/admin will delete this thread soon. Or would that be too bold of a move. Or by mentioning the possibility, it won't be deleted if there ever was such thought. So many unknowns! So confused!
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Sounds like you are swinging both ways.....it is catching.

 

yeah, it can be nuts but than again your going on the Web and may hurt your reputation/sales because the next customer might think it might happen to them if they go through the same company/install.

Just imo...companies/people fvck up all the time...i agree with ivoid that i dont like to share the downfall on mess up but they do happen...i just try to learn my lesson and move on....for example this was a 20k mess up...lesson learned...not saying it is okay. I been burned for about 10k and none the less GTM offered to fix it and i assume is done.

other question to me...just for obvious reason if you go back to the shop and talk to owner/manager and everything is cool and go online to make a thread about it...just being two faced about the whole situation. If you were really upset you should have been blunt from the get go. Hired a lawyer, go to court and settle it there.

 

From where I stand it looks like the OP got a sh1tty job on the install that is inexcusable from a shop of the level I feel Forged is at. It seems Sharif had tried his best to correct the situation, he offered to replace the OEM engine with another OEM or the OP pay for rods and pistons to get a S1...sounds like a decent deal $1500 for a built engine installed!! I know when I got my TT kit installed I knew I was taking a chance the OEM engine could go at any time and if mine would have went I would have jumped all over a deal like that. The junk yard parts.....that dosent even make sense where would you even find junk yard parts for a 37 its not like its a 15 yr old car and he is digging junk out of a dumpster to bolt on the car . I am good friends with a performance shop owner and I know things like cars getting backed into hoists happens once in a blue moon Sharif said he would fix it even if he had a mint condition slightly used rear tail light with no damage at his shop I am not sure why it would be a big deal if he used it?

To me it seems like Forged tried to fix its mistakes and the OP jumped the gun and pulled his car out of Forged before it got fixed. I am not a Forged fan boy I have never met Sharif. Would I be pissed about the way that TT install looks hell yes but mistakes do happen and it seems that Forged tried/was trying to fix the mistakes/damage but just never had the chance. Seeing this thread I do feel for the OP it seems like he had a horrible experience but I would still take my car to Forged if i had the oppertunity. Like always the forums love a scandal and a chance for drama I hope the OPs car turns out to be everything he hoped for and I hope Sharif learns from this and tightens up QC and makes his shop even better due to this incident.

 

Prove it. Show me the pictures.

I want to see the cylinder walls, valves, head, spark plugs, piston surfaces, and rings.

All you show is one bent connecting rod, 2 head gaskets, and a shot of the block from underneath with the oil pan off. Connecting rods can be bent by detonation. Are you saying this engine had weak connecting rods? If that was the extend of the engine damage, connecting rods are not expensive (relatively speaking) at all.

 

Someone said it earlier...I think. Getting coils and wheels installed by Forged or bought lug nuts and had a good experience is not the same as a TT install. I had springs and wheels put on an old Eclipse at Firestone and they did a great job and it was a good experience for me but no way in hell do I let those idiots instal a TT on my car. Just sayin.

 

When the problem escalates to the point of needing a lawyer, then the choice in vendors was a very bad one. One should not need to "get blunt" to have good customer service. Besides, there's too many rich lawyers walking around already and you know a lawyer would want to be paid while he brought justice.

OP's car was at Forged for a year and still wasn't fixed. How much more patient could he have been? Forged was using this repair job as occassional fill-in work, and letting weeks turn into months at the expense of the OP. The depreciation cost alone was in the thousands. I understand why the OP took his car back, he was waiting for repairs that were never gonna happen. Maybe a lawyer would have been called for, but I'm not that litigious myself. Hope I never have to be.