sooo... Rochester( since I know you have a lot to say about this just like anything else )

what are everyone's opinions on sway bars, let's say eibach vs hotchkis? pros and cons and overall winner?

and also if I decided to go with Eibach 2 way adj. front / 3 way adj. rear sway bars and had them set to 2nd setting upfront and 3rd in the rear, does it mean ther car would be more likely to oversteer at that point? it would be EVEN easier for it to go sideways rather than understeer?

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For daily drivers, I think the differences are negligible to the point of irrelevance. A year and a half ago, if a deal didn't pop up for my Eibachs from a trusted member here, I was all set to buy Hotchkis.

The take-away is that aftermarket sways > OEM.

But that's just my opinion, because you specifically asked for it. I'm no expert. I just read the forum a lot.

 

Got in my car today, to see a Low Tire Pressure warning light. When I unscrewed the cap on the driver's front, it started blowing air. It seems that valve stem is broken.

Only half a year old, with a few thousand miles. I didn't know valve stems would fail like that. Now I have to scramble for a fix. And the stem isn't standard... it's a shorty from VOSSEN, that they included for clearance with the front wheel and the Akebono caliper. I suppose I should contact VOSSEN first.

Sigh.

 

I'm going to agree with Rochester, I dont think there id a significant difference amongst the various swaybars, certainly not something you'll notice through the seat of your pants.

I cant think of any cons

I havent changed my Eibach's from soft front middle rear in almost a year.

I'd get whatever you can get the best deal on. Dont forget Stillen.

 

I think if it comes to this,I think It will be Eibachs then. I still haven't gotten a response to one question .. if I slap these on I'm assuming the car then more likely oversteers than understeers am I correct?

 

No, that is not correct. With aftermarket sways on the G37 Sedan RWD Sport w/LSD and TC turned off... oversteer and understeer are each more likely to occur with equal expectation based on the conditions. This is in contrast to the car predisposed to push into the turn with understeer, as it's prone to do in OEM trim.

The aftermarket sways will increase the speed at which the extents of handing come into play. But if you hurl yourself into a turn with TC on, you'll still probably understeer.

Knowhatimean?

 

No

I see well I'm talking about TC off, I think it makes sense if the setting in the rear is set to the most aggressive, I thought it definitely would be easier for it to oversteer at that point, might've read about it somewhere..

 

Mike, just buy some Hotchkis sways. Get them installed, and enjoy better driving. Don't over-analyze it, man.

Some things just work. This is one of those things.

 

Somethings I just have to research, and this is one of them... I learned that the hard way for example with the Takeda SRIs.... well Eibachs I can get for $320 new vs Hotchkis for $420? worth the $100 extra?

And I wasn't really over analyzing it I just wanted to know if the car ... oh wait nvm , I'm over analyzing it lol

 

You guys drive on the street with stability/traction control off?

 

I do usually with TC off when it's dry, I find the car performing better and from time to time it's fun to chirp the tires lol BUT definitely not in wet conditions... learned my lesson once and never again, unless in an empty parking lot.

 

There's an irony to the whole do-as-i-say-not-as-i-do thing. I get that.

Hell yeah.

Always thought the TC on/off switch should be on top of the shift ****.

 

Wait, can you turn the TC off independently of the stability control?

It seems that as long as im going straight the car will allow some healthy wheel spin. And chirping 2nd and 3rd causes the warning light to flash, but it doesnt seem to retard power, perhaps because the slip is just for a brief moment

 

No, you can't I actually wish there was like a 3 way traction control.... where you can turn off just traction or traction with stability off because the way our TC works, even when its off it still kicks in at times without you even knowing, unless you really notice it like I did the other day and proved the 'theory' that TC kicks in even when its off..

 

Hotchkis are the stiffest sway bars for our cars. I have them and haven't looked back. Somewhere on the forum, there is a listing of how much stiffer than stock the sways are. I've seen it, but don't have time to dig into the search at the moment, otherwise I'd serve up a link.