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Old 01-17-2013, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eljoker
Btw, what's so bad about a cvt? My maxima mobs man. It mobs.
I would say it's scary to see the tachometer hand sticks in the red line and the car not going anywhere.
Old 01-17-2013, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Max00
I would say it's scary to see the tachometer hand sticks in the red line and the car not going anywhere.
Really? Do you look away from the tach cus when I hit the gas my maxima gets up. It's not srt8, sti, ss, m56 fast but, it's fast enough to put a smile on my face (smile comes in part from not spilling .69 cent coffee from Quick Trip as well)
Old 01-17-2013, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Max00
I would say it's scary to see the tachometer hand sticks in the red line and the car not going anywhere.
My friends maxima shifts horrible, if the juke shifted that way would have passed all together.
The shifts are just very lazy, if he shifts by hand forget it.

Now comparing to the Nissan juke, it has much less hp than 3.5 yet only a tiny bit slower.
The juke has has cvt, no manual for the awd.
cvt is not bad on a direct injection turbo charged 1.6 liter.
Power is seamless & if you put in sport mode.
it forms up the steering & adds more boost. 15psi stock.
Next a tune, will smooth out any lazy shifts that happen.

Being as the q50 does not have a turbo or direct injection, I don't think the power will be as smooth if it has cvt.

Expect some awkward shifting, again maxima cvt was clinking/making strange noises around the trans.

I hope they ditch the Torque convertor but how ?

This is no gtr.
Old 01-18-2013, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RISKY GUY
My friends maxima shifts horrible, if the juke shifted that way would have passed all together.
The shifts are just very lazy, if he shifts by hand forget it.

Now comparing to the Nissan juke, it has much less hp than 3.5 yet only a tiny bit slower.
The juke has has cvt, no manual for the awd.
cvt is not bad on a direct injection turbo charged 1.6 liter.
Power is seamless & if you put in sport mode.
it forms up the steering & adds more boost. 15psi stock.
Next a tune, will smooth out any lazy shifts that happen.

Being as the q50 does not have a turbo or direct injection, I don't think the power will be as smooth if it has cvt.

Expect some awkward shifting, again maxima cvt was clinking/making strange noises around the trans.

I hope they ditch the Torque convertor but how ?

This is no gtr.
What year is his max? There was a TSB for the transmission that addressed that. The 2013s max have the new cvt from the altima.

I don't know how they are addressing the torque converter but it should be exciting to see,
Old 01-18-2013, 12:30 AM
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It's a 2009 , he is kinda cheap.
Bet he uses regular
Old 01-18-2013, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RISKY GUY
hope its not that crappy cvt because my friends 09 maxima has it. ]

holy slow as **** shifting.

as a joke i got him a shift this decal.
The CVT does not really "shift" btw, I've driven the gen 3 cvt's (JX, Altima) and it is smooth as butter, too smooth that it actually got boring.
Old 01-18-2013, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RISKY GUY
It's a 2009 , he is kinda cheap.
Bet he uses regular
makes a huge diffrence to us guys that know about cars
Old 01-18-2013, 05:58 PM
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From Motortrend

"Infiniti's Direct Response Hybrid system is exclusive to the brand, and lies at the heart of the M35h. Developed completely in-house, the system boasts a 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle V-6 with 302-horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque, a 50 kW electric motor, and two clutches, one dry and one wet. The dry clutch is positioned between the gasoline engine and electric motor, allowing independent operation of each, which helps increase overall efficiency. The wet clutch sits at the tail end of the M35h's seven-speed automatic transmission, nixing the need for a conventional torque converter. The setup saves weight and helps provide a crisper response from the gearbox.

Read more: 2012 Infiniti M35h First Test - Motor Trend

Scenario 1: Combustion Engine Off, Electric Motor On -- gradual acceleration, low-speed urban driving. First clutch disengaged, engine shut off, second clutch engaged. Motor drives rear wheels and uses power from the lithium-ion battery pack.

Scenario 2: Engine On, Motor Off -- mid to high speeds. Both clutches engaged. The engine powers the wheels, while the wheel motion and motor help the recharge the batteries. The gearbox's high final gear ratio also aids efficiency.

Scenario 3: Engine Off, Motor Off -- deceleration or coasting. First clutch disengaged, engine shut off, second clutch engaged. Vehicle inertia (i.e. regenerative braking) recharges the batteries.

Scenario 4: Engine On, Motor On -- full acceleration. Both clutches engaged, while engine and motor power wheels. Batteries are discharged.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2IN5SWCPg




At the press event, a Nissan engineer outlined the M Hybrid's secret sauce: a gas engine/electric motor combo with twin clutches -- one dry, one wet. The former finds a home between the 3.5-liter Atkinson-cycle combustion engine (good for 302 horsepower) and the lithium-ion-battery-powered electric motor (67 horsepower). The dry clutch sits last on the same propshaft as the motor and seven-speed automatic transmission, and is always engaged. Basically, the lineup goes, from front to rear: gas engine, dry clutch, electric motor, transmission, wet clutch (see diagram below).

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2IN43so4X



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Old 01-18-2013, 06:40 PM
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Thanks for finding and posting that Keng. Helps to explain the hybrid system and modes as well as debunking that the AT can't function without a torque converter. Good stuff.
Old 01-18-2013, 07:15 PM
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Thanks for finding and posting that Keng. Helps to explain the hybrid system and modes as well as debunking that the AT can't function without a torque converter. Good stuff.


I can't wait til they release new full electric soon, might gun for that.

Tesla Model S looks promising too, but still 37 months to go on M37 lease tho :P
Old 01-18-2013, 07:17 PM
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look at this, there are some interesting discussion going on in bimmer forum, sounds like they think the infiniti design was stolen from bimmer......

Visual Comparo of BMW F30 3 Series vs Infiniti Q50 Sedan - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST
Old 01-18-2013, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kanji0513
look at this, there are some interesting discussion going on in bimmer forum, sounds like they think the infiniti design was stolen from bimmer......

Visual Comparo of BMW F30 3 Series vs Infiniti Q50 Sedan - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST
Wow, BMW owners take stupidity to a whole new level. They think the Q50 is based on the Altima, brilliant.
Old 01-18-2013, 08:05 PM
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The side by side same angle shots are very surprising to me. They share a lot more similarities than I'd have believed without viewing them side by side from each angle. The ones saying that Q50 design cues were taken from BMW are smoking dope. I can see how a person could have a preference for either one. The opinions seem quite myopic to me but if they like living in Beemer fantasyland that's probably a good place for them. I ain't mad at em for liking what they like. But some of the crazy bias in that thread makes some of the myopians here look pretty balanced and level headed.
Old 01-18-2013, 09:52 PM
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Keng


I can't wait til they release new full electric soon, might gun for that.

Tesla Model S looks promising too, but still 37 months to go on M37 lease tho :P
An EV will not be a practical replacement for at least another decade. So, take your time.


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