aw yay, look at all the drama i found!

step 1 - i installed the stillen splitter in sept '09 without turnbuckles because i liked the look and didnt want to damage my pretty front bumper. it lasted about 4 months before the middle 1/2 ripped out during a 140mph+ run on the highway. this was after NUMEROUS runs at these sorts of speeds. i was intelligent enough to understand that when i first installed a splitter which creates downforce, that i needed to reinforce it so i used extra screws. this is why it ripped in pieces and didnt come off as 1 party.

step 2 - i installed another splitter in feb '10 with turnbuckles since my paint was already damaged. it has lasted over 18 months with multiple 100mph+ runs. i can guarantee you that i push my car harder than 99% of the people on this forum and its still there. has it drooped down in the middle because its just plastic? yes. it it still holding on for dear life though? yes!

basically, this isnt a functional track spoiler like imstricken is comparing it too. its a cosmetic piece which heaven forbid, actually follows the laws of physics. when you buy a part for your car and dont understand what it does, dont get mad at the people selling it.

ps kidcane likes boys.

 

You do realize that when you guarantee us that you push you car harder than 99% of the people on this forum on highways with speeds in excess of 140mph- you do loose any form of credibility simply due to the sheer foolishness in your selfish actions, right?

secondly- "basically, this isnt a functional track spoiler like this "imstricken" vender is comparing it too. its a cosmetic piece"
that would work if we bought a car that sits in a show room. but since we drive our cars, and we buy such accessories- we expect things to at least withstand basic aerodynamic pressures WITHIN LEGAL DRIVING SPEEDS! SO YES ANYTHING YOU PUT ON YOUR CAR THAT WILL BE EXPOSED TO WIND RESISTANCE NEEDS TO BE FUNCTIONAL!
and no one is comparing track parts to non track parts. and WTF are track parts?? since when does any accessory in any store claim TRACK ONLY(except race slicks) or NOT FOR TRACK USE?
with your mentality your company would make cardboard body parts and claim: NOT FOR FUNCTIONAL TRACK USE- COSMETIC ONLY lol

PS: driving 140mph+ on a highway, your head is obviously "Not for functional use- Cosmetic Only" as well.

 

Well it's technically labeled as a splitter.. what's the technical definition for that term?

 

Lol @ the cardboard parts

 

A friend of mine installed it with a ton of screws, thick ones, and no Turnbuckles and he's still fine. Even through some 120mph runs

 

my 140mph+ runs on the highway were late at night with very minimal cars around. was it the smartest thing to do? no. have i done that within the last 2 years? no. instead i started tracking my car and ive stuck to more intelligent driving speeds on the street. sorry im not perfect but i live and learn. the fact that you have to result to personal attacks lowers any of YOUR credibility especially as a vendor.

if you knew anything about track aero, you would know that bolting a splitter to your bumper is a horrible idea. plastic cracks as shown by some of these pics. when i referenced a real splitter, i am talking about something like the cf apr splitter attached to the actual frame of your car to create real downforce.

now does this plastic "splitter" create downforce? obviously yes since they are being ripped off. the OP from this thread was months ago and installed it WITHOUT turnbuckles due to stillen CS saying it was optional. their mistake? yes. has anyone WITH turnbuckles lost theirs driving within the speed limits? i have yet to see such a case. i have run mine at several TRACK events with speeds well over highway speeds and it still has not come off. im not saying stillen or their products are perfect but use some common sense on your $50k infiniti and you'll get a lot further in life.

ps sorry for any disrespect sam. hope the sun and sand are treating you well over there.

 

I know you're talking about me Doggy...

And yes on my first splitter I used a ton of bolts/nuts/washers to secure the splitter... didn't go anywhere when some debris hit me on the freeway and cracked it in half. Splitter was still on there as sturdy as the day I installed it. [without turnbuckles]

Now I'm on my second splitter and I decided to use rivets/washers instead of nuts/bolts just because I wanted to try something different. I must say the rivets are even tighter than the nuts/bolts were... my splitter is still holding up just fine without the turnbuckles.

Did I buy this for tracking reasons? NO... I bought it for looks. And it has held up great, perfect fitment straight from Stillen. Ready to bolt right one [but I recommend using your own hardware: nuts/bolts or pop rivets like me, sheet metal screws will not do jack to keep your splitter in place when cruising at freeway speeds]

 

you just proved my & everyone's point. that if stillen redesigned the install hardware and install directions; Less splitters would fly off.
its been proven by yourself, and many like you in real world scenario's that the failure to install turnbuckles is NOT the reason these things fly off. its the other hardware used to secure this onto the vehicle.
The tiny screws used to secure the turnbuckles onto the plastic fascia will not secure the splitter enough onto the vehicle to withstand basic legal driving speeds.
ON THE STILLEN WEBSITE ITSELF:
"STILLEN Splitters are made from our durable and resilient urethane. They provide an easy way to increase down-force on the front wheels and improve the appearance of your vehicle. An added benefit is an increase in airflow through the radiator and heat exchanger, a byproduct of the high pressure zone created above the splitter as it slices through the air."

"Great looking and functional"

w0ady: "basically, this isnt a functional track spoiler like imstricken is comparing it too."

I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT THAT TO ME SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST AN AESTHETIC ACCESSORY- IT IS MARKETED AS A TRUE FUNCTIONING SPLITTER.
(if thats the case then they certainly, without doubt need to redesign the splitter with more structural integrity, and certainly a more secure approach to the mounting hardware. AND ALLOW REPEAT CUSTOMERS TO RETAIN A DISCOUNTED PRICE IF THEY CAN PROVE PRIOR PURCHASE.)

LASTLY:
(if the lack of turnbuckles was so detrimental to the security & structural integrity to these splitter- dont you think the instructions would state that?
the instructions state: "Last you will be installing the turnbuckles onto the front of the fascia and top of the splitter. Use the provided small self-tapping screws and mount as shown or any way you like."
IF STILLEN KNEW THAT THE TURNBUCKLES ARE AN INTRICATE PART OF THE STABILIZATION, DONT YOU THINK THEY WOULD TELL YOU WHERE TO MOUNT THEM FOR OPTIMAL PERFORMANCE & STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY - and that failure to use the turnbuckles will void any warranty claims?

 

Or you could just use the turnbuckles and install them as the instructions go.

He said he's on his second splitter because he hit debris. We can't help that, but do work with customers needing replacements.

 

off topic, but whats with the emblem not fitting in the stillen grille?

 

The thread was not started about him hitting debris, it's from mine taking wind and flying off. I still to this day don't buy that those self tapping screws and some turn buckles will keep it on. What are the 1/4" diameter maybe smaller & maybe the same in lenght?

The problem(s) is/are:

1) The directions are very VAUGE on how/if they should be installed. So "as the instructions go" I could mount them to the bottom of the splitter if I truley wanted to.

2) The hardware provided is garbage. Provide some real bolts, not just self tappers. Sure you may have to instruct installers on how to remove the bumper to do so, but in the process you make a "quality" part that you advertise.

The splitter itself is not the problem, and never has been, it's the package as a whole. Would it really kill you guys to improve the install notes and provide some nuts and bolts vs the screws?

I have installed the new one without the turnbuckles but as seen I used superior hardware. For the price you guys charge for something that I'm sure costs very little to make, you could at least beef up the hardware some. Hell raise the price to compensate the $17 if you must, but it will keep you from having your name drug through the mud. Not just the splitter but all the way up to the supercharger line.

 

You totally disregarded everything i wrote, and diverted attention elsewhere.
ok i see no one will get anywhere with this... enjoy your day

PS: i really hope the stillen design "engineers" rethink their mounting hardware, and reinforce your product with a thin steel plate throughout the width of the splitter. take out the screws, and instead include strong nuts&bolts with wide plate washers, to help absorb the extreme the pressure. THEN go ahead and modify your instructions to clearly state that the turnbuckles are mandatory, and the reason behind it. Not:"mount as shown or any way you like."
(if a wedding invitation said to "dress(mount) any way you like" - and someone shows up looking like this: who's to blame the schlub?

 

I would like to see stainless screws or stainless nuts and bolts for sure! No more cheap little metal screws that rust!!!

 

I can definitely agree with DPE G, ImStricken and Xcalibur. Would it really be that hard to reword the instructions and provide better materials to mount the entire thing with? Seems like the only people who are doing fine with the splitter are the ones who mounted their own bolts, nuts, etc. I think it sucks when you buy something fairly expensive and then have to break your head, making custom adjustments to it for better use. Screw the turnbuckles, even. Just get better mounting on the thing and there will be no complaints.

As it seems to me, people who are doing fine with their splitters are complaining about the fact that they had to make some major improv in order to make sure the splitter won't fly off. That's retarded, because I'm sure they'd rather not do any improv, and have it adequately ready right out of the box. Would that be so hard for Stillen?

 

I think everyone agrees the instructions could be clearer and the screws could be replaced with bolts to better secure it but the bottom line is still that NO ONE WHO INSTALLED IT WITH THE TURNBUCKLES HAS HAD THEIR SPLITTER COME OFF!