Engine, Drivetrain & Forced-Induction
Have Technical Questions or Done Modifications to the G37? Find out the answer in here!

Stillen/GTM Supercharger Pros, Cons, and Questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-24-2010, 10:45 AM
  #106  
Q8y_drifter
Registered User
 
Q8y_drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 970
Received 39 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by Staples
This isn't a Honda
Just a little combo I'd love to try
Old 06-24-2010, 10:48 AM
  #107  
Ivoidwarranties
Premier Member

iTrader: (7)
 
Ivoidwarranties's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Omaha
Posts: 2,078
Received 28 Likes on 14 Posts
That's right, let the hot coolant out of the engine sooner so the engine can run cooler. I've never seen the combo thing you're talking about.

After looking in the manual, these thermostats open at 170 degrees and close at 160. That's probably the lowerest I've ever seen from the factory for any car, ever. It is built into the water inlet pipe (what I would call the snout) all as one assembly. Does not look easy to change out.
Old 06-24-2010, 10:50 AM
  #108  
Q8y_drifter
Registered User
 
Q8y_drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 970
Received 39 Likes on 9 Posts
Isn't it similar to what the DE had? The DE opens at 180F or maybe the Nismo version opened at 180. Anyhow, I thought the design was similar and therefore replaceable. I don't know though.
Old 06-24-2010, 02:52 PM
  #109  
Mike
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,549
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 11 Posts
In theory, under heavy use, it's going to be open the whole time anyways; it wouldn't apply for track duty.

Think of it this way: dedicated track cars generally don't have cooling fans...
Old 06-24-2010, 11:28 PM
  #110  
dillyyo
Registered User
 
dillyyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter
SC - cheaper, easier to install and maintain, increased reliability over turbo, better day to day usage, less heat issues (due to engine oil used by turbo)

TT - more power, easier to increase & decrease boost via EBC, better torque, more fun at the track and weekend driving, easier to gain more power out of the same turbo.

This is ofcourse more of a general view of both but yeah. Personally I'd go with a SC if my car is a DD (and it is). It's just much easier to live with and less stuff the worry about over a turbo system IMO. Plus our cars make excellent power with FI and are quite reliable with the right amount of boost. The nice thing is that the power difference between SC and TT is not that much especially if you're considering going with a basic stage 1 kit (TT or SC). They both make over 400whp easily at similar amounts of boost.
Yeah, with turbos you have to worry about coking and shortening the life span. SC not being exhaust driven is cooler and not a worry. THe worse thing is loss of that turbo pull. Even NA big blocks are fast, but do not have the classic turbo rush!
Old 06-24-2010, 11:30 PM
  #111  
dillyyo
Registered User
 
dillyyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by da mayor
im torn... the s/c just gives constant pressure onto the motor while the turbo you need to be in the right RPM's to hit boost.

It's also depending on how much more power you're looking to gain.
Not if you get a smaller size turbo. my 530's were super responsive and the best for daily driving. Way more fun that the bigger dyno queen turbos. Fun for top end, but not as much for "city" driving
Old 06-28-2010, 03:57 PM
  #112  
Mike
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,549
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 11 Posts
more links added to original post.
Old 06-28-2010, 11:25 PM
  #113  
Mike
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,549
Likes: 0
Received 20 Likes on 11 Posts
CARB link added to first post, due to questions asked. CARB status can be checked via the link.

As of this post, neither the GTM nor Stillen kit are CARB legal.
Old 06-29-2010, 03:11 AM
  #114  
2muchredbull
Registered User
 
2muchredbull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
could someone explain the Stillen warrenty on the SC?
ty
Old 06-29-2010, 04:07 PM
  #115  
OMG37
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
OMG37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 401
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 2muchredbull
could someone explain the Stillen warrenty on the SC?
ty
Has stillen even posted what the warranty is yet? Last I checked they were still "getting all the ducks in a row" with the company they are contracting with.
Old 08-20-2010, 09:18 AM
  #116  
njchen24
Registered User
 
njchen24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter
SC - cheaper, easier to install and maintain, increased reliability over turbo, better day to day usage, less heat issues (due to engine oil used by turbo)

TT - more power, easier to increase & decrease boost via EBC, better torque, more fun at the track and weekend driving, easier to gain more power out of the same turbo.

This is ofcourse more of a general view of both but yeah. Personally I'd go with a SC if my car is a DD (and it is). It's just much easier to live with and less stuff the worry about over a turbo system IMO. Plus our cars make excellent power with FI and are quite reliable with the right amount of boost. The nice thing is that the power difference between SC and TT is not that much especially if you're considering going with a basic stage 1 kit (TT or SC). They both make over 400whp easily at similar amounts of boost.
Forgive my ignorance, I often hear about turbo lag. Is there any lag in sc? How about a poll showing tt vs sc?
Old 08-20-2010, 11:11 AM
  #117  
Weiboy718
Registered User
iTrader: (10)
 
Weiboy718's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Homo Capital!
Posts: 4,967
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by njchen24
Forgive my ignorance, I often hear about turbo lag. Is there any lag in sc? How about a poll showing tt vs sc?
Superchargers are powered by your engines crank pulley and boost builds as your rpms rises. There shouldn't be any lag.
Old 08-20-2010, 03:59 PM
  #118  
whiddles
Registered Member
iTrader: (2)
 
whiddles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ft hood texas, Middletown,CT
Posts: 1,445
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I still need to take some videos of my car. I will try tomorrow with my droid lol.
Old 08-20-2010, 06:06 PM
  #119  
Q8y_drifter
Registered User
 
Q8y_drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 970
Received 39 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by whiddles
I still need to take some videos of my car. I will try tomorrow with my droid lol.
please do so
Old 08-23-2010, 07:29 AM
  #120  
njchen24
Registered User
 
njchen24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Weiboy718
Superchargers are powered by your engines crank pulley and boost builds as your rpms rises. There shouldn't be any lag.
In other word, the sc will have a faster response than tt, especially when you floor to pass or to start from a stop point. Am I understand correctly?


Quick Reply: Stillen/GTM Supercharger Pros, Cons, and Questions



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:22 PM.