Hey guys, I was looking at buying the Injen CAI, and I was about to pull the trigger and then got to thinking... if I have to remove the bumper to run all the piping, do I need to pull the bumper to clean or replace the filters too? Forgive me if it's a stupid question, I was just trying to picture where the filters sit in my head and can't think of a good way to get to them otherwise.

 

yes you will have to remove the bumper in order to replace the filters but it's not that bad. You don't have to replace them that often.

 

That sucks, but I figured that would be the case... what about cleaning?

 

k&n filters dont filter properly can mess up an engine in the long run not to mention messing a MAF from oiling..
if u want it to be easyer TO clean get the stillen GEN3
or if u want to be able switch back to OEM in 20 mins u can get the R2C intake like me and it filters way better than ANY other filter in the world but the gains will not be as much as the stillen GEN3 or injen CAI

 

Yeah I might just get the R2C's, I don't think I want to deal with the hassle and permanence of cutting with the Stillens or having to remove the bumper every time I need to clean up the Injens. I'll let this thread play out a little longer and see if anyone else has a say before I decide though.

 

i believe you can access the filters through the wheel wells

 

cvt is right, never thought about that before...

but seriously it's not hard taking the bumper off, I can even do it as a one man job now...

 

if ur gonna get short ram its R2C or nothing IMo

 

I know it's not hard, I could do it by myself, I just don't know about taking it off time and time again as far as wear on the clips etc. Yeah as far as short rams go I'd probably buy the R2C's if I go that direction.

 

No disrespect, but this post is full of inaccuracies..

K&N filters have been used on hundreds of thousands of engines for a tremendous amount of time, and is plagued by internet rumors of over oiling and MAF problems.

So much so they have devoted a portion of their company to attempting to recreate such errors, as well as defend anyone anytime against a manufacturer for MAF failure.. Please read: K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns

We've used K&N for every intake we've developed, including the STILLEN Gen 3 which has been proven independently numerous times to develop the most horsepower, along with excellent filter location to avoid potential submergion causing hydrolocking.

Yes, if you're going for a true cold air bumper removal is necessary, but most report that taking it on and off once you've done it once is about 10 minutes. Others have reported being able to change the filters without needing to remove the bumper.

K&N suggests cleaning at a 50,000 mile interval.. enthusiasts usually do it at 30-40,000 miles, so you're still looking at years before needing to clean.

If you're looking at something other than a cold air there are options, but for a true horsepower gain, CAI's are the way to go..

I hope that helps.. please feel free to ask questions..

 

Man, even though I said I wasn't looking at the Stillen intake you came through and set things straight for me. Thanks for all that info Josh.
Alright one last question, that Injen kit comes with Amsoil dry filters, how do they stack up to the K&N's? Has anyone actually tried both?

 

There are definitely the debates that you'll find all over the internet from enthusiasts and companies pushing filters, test results, how many microns, etc.

As far as flow, almost any filter selection is going to allow for more air than your engine can handle, unless you're pushing obscene amounts of horsepower and air needs.

There are also the debate on dry vs. oiled filters, how much filtration, what it will do for your engine, etc.

Take the marketing info for what it is, but know that most aftermarket filter options filtrate exceedingly better than the factory paper filters, which the manufacturers have accounted for in the longevity in the engines they produce, and continue to supply.

As far as ease of maintenance, both dry and oiled filters require cleaning.. you're still in a position to need access to the filters, which in a cold-air setup is the seeming challenging part, but once done intitially develops the skills necessary to make things quick.

 

what is inaccurate with my post please tell me

 

yeah just about everything you said in your first post is wrong (the only correct statement I found is that the Gen3 is easier to clean)

1) K&N filters work PERFECTLY. I would like to see any evidence you have that they don't filter properly (there isn't any, but if you think there is please share)

2) the ONLY way you could mess up ANYTHING from oiling your filters is if you soak them in oil...and if you do that then you shouldn't be working on a car in any way. You have to apply so much extra oil to mess up the MAF. If you can read directions and follow the recharge kit then there is no problem. There are plenty of oiled filter than have no problems. (even the OEM drop in filters are oiled)

3)I have yet to see any evidence that the R2C filters are in any way better at filtration than K&N or any other high quality filters

 

hahaha sounds like your on corporate k&n s nuts