I've popped in and out of this thread and never happened upon one of those discussions I guess. I'll admit to seeing it at an auto show and not liking it quite as much in person as in the pictures, but I think it will still be worth a drive for me since it ticks so many boxes.

Of course it's not the Jag I really want. I happened upon a silver F-Type parked streetside a few weeks ago and went a bit weak in the knees. I've been utterly infatuated with it since it launched. Not going to get into my price range, I'm afraid.

 

If some of you guys are just waiting for M3's and ATS-V's to drop in to your price range, it probably won't be long. I too would prefer $40k instead of $50k. It looks like the ATS-V is depreciating faster, but there are fewer of them out there than the M3. I think it came out in '16 so maybe a number of 3 year leases will start hitting the used market soon.

A kid stopped by today to trade in a beautiful red '14 GT-R w/ 39k miles. I was tempted, but he took it to a couple of track days and the front tire edges tell me he hit the brakes way too late as it at least needed new front tires and rotors. A car with that kind of wear worries me a bit. Great car though!

 

The only thing is, you then have a 3 year old car. And that projects out to a 8 year old car when you have it paid off, with X many miles, assuming you finance for 5 years. Any extended warranty is probably over, and I'm right into another car payment, instead of enjoying a couple years of no payments.

 

Oh you're financing. Ok, no problem. Get the ATS-V and buy a good extended warranty (it has to be a lot cheaper than the M3) or just keep the car longer.

 

 

Saw my first Tesla Model3 in the wild yesterday, right here in little Rochester, NY. In fact, not even a mile from my humble neighborhood. We were side by side for a while, and stopped at a few lights.

Design-wise, the visuals on this car are extremely appealing, particularly in red. I know that reviewers are split about many things, but all I can comment on right now is my impression of how it looks in traffic from an outside perspective. And it looks pretty nice.

I don't want one, just saying... saw it yesterday, and liked the looks.

 

Interesting, I have seen a few on the road over here and especially in red and white its is quite striking from most angles...but from some angles it seems to have kind of bulbus proportions in the greenhouse area...like they shrunk the design of the Model S overall but then had to make the roofline higher to still fit people in making it look a little weird

 

Not surprised you're seeing them in Toronto. I expect them to be more rare this side of the lake. Much smaller town here.

Yes, bulbous. I would agree with that. It does seem a little bulbous.

 

I don't think ANY Tesla looks good except the Semi and Roadster. They all are pulling the Jetson bubble. Every time I see one I scream a cacophony of sounds...yep there's a 100k ugly car that can't drive long distance. Congrats. Colors are uninspiring. Performance is undeniable. Dash sucks (sorry not sorry). Wheel selection is bleh. Sound is ok for stereo. I guess I could see this as a viable purchase if I never ever traveled more than a few hundred miles round trip. But down here in the redneck south YEEEE HAWWWWW there's only something like 10 superchargers in the entire state of NC. All on I-40 and I-95. If I want to take a drive through the mountains or I need to drive to BFE NC...I'm screwed with that car.

I just don't get it. The $35k could be appealing with some modifications...like manually adjusting vents, emergency handle releases in the rear seats, and a less bulbous proportion. But given that only the $70k models are being made, I'll pass.

 

I see tons of them in Charlotte. There is a gallery a mile from my work. It's someplace I've never considered killing time in over lunch

I think the majority are owned by bankers commuting uptown from the 'burbs so the range isn't an issue.

 

lol, exactly, just like a Jetson's Bubble...or even

 

Maybe. The one I saw had two 30 something women in the front, two kids and an infant carrier in the back. I'll leave any inference to anyone who sees one.

While certainly sporty, it is not a sports sedan, IMO. Respectable design and impressive acceleration notwithstanding.

 

The Teslas seem to have cleaner lines and tighter panel gaps than most cars. I think this makes them look a bit futuristic. They all have a very simple design as well, which probably helps with the clean look.

 

I'm seriously considering a used Lexus CT200h hybrid hatchback. I test drove one the other day and although not in the same class as a G37 it seemed like a more practical car.I really nice interior and outside looks overall good as well. Still had enough get up and go for my tastes and obviously MUCH better on fuel as it's based on the Prius. I know some will laugh but for me all the horse power in the G is mostly wasted as I have a short commute and never really have the time to drive it in a spirited fashion.

 

Today's review of the Genesis G70 on AutoBlog is pretty interesting. The photos are excellent, and that interior pops with the diamond-stitching in red threads on the black leather.

Wow.

http://www.autoblog.com/2018/07/16/g...-drive-982307/