What vehicle will be a worthy replacement for your sedan when it is time?
#976
I agree with you on the manual thing as I have never owned a performance DCT, but the GT-R is a serious contender for me too.
The M3 is definitely easier to find than an ATS-V. It really doesn't help that I like the bright red (not maroon) and want a fold down rear seat and a performance data recorder. Yikes! I think I would have better luck finding Jimmy Hoffa.
The M3 is definitely easier to find than an ATS-V. It really doesn't help that I like the bright red (not maroon) and want a fold down rear seat and a performance data recorder. Yikes! I think I would have better luck finding Jimmy Hoffa.
#981
Can't hurt to try
I'm not thinking anytime soon, just about to hit 100k. I have a fun 20 mile commute, over the lake and a quiet 2 lane road that accounts for 80% of my miles.
Hard to think of another ride right now, but fun to contemplate.
I'm not thinking anytime soon, just about to hit 100k. I have a fun 20 mile commute, over the lake and a quiet 2 lane road that accounts for 80% of my miles.
Hard to think of another ride right now, but fun to contemplate.
#983
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I think that's a pretty good guess. That is kind of what I was anticipating.
The steering and braking is supposed to be a touch better on the ATS-V than the M3. (But I find the styling and fit/finish on the M3 a lot better) The braking must be due to the larger calipers on the ATS-V as the rear rotors are quite a bit smaller. However, not as tragically small as the ones on the RS3. Sliding caliper brakes- seriously Audi??? However, the Audi will absolutely smoke both the M3 and ATS-V in a straight line. It seems like the handling would be a bit weird with so much weight up front. I think the Quadrifoglio would be a bit quicker around the circuit than all (if it doesn't brake down on the way there), but I am waiting to see an RS3 lightning lap to be sure.
The steering and braking is supposed to be a touch better on the ATS-V than the M3. (But I find the styling and fit/finish on the M3 a lot better) The braking must be due to the larger calipers on the ATS-V as the rear rotors are quite a bit smaller. However, not as tragically small as the ones on the RS3. Sliding caliper brakes- seriously Audi??? However, the Audi will absolutely smoke both the M3 and ATS-V in a straight line. It seems like the handling would be a bit weird with so much weight up front. I think the Quadrifoglio would be a bit quicker around the circuit than all (if it doesn't brake down on the way there), but I am waiting to see an RS3 lightning lap to be sure.
I also test-drove a 335i and liked a lot about it, but to get it into my price range made it a little older than what I was willing to trust from BMW.
Realistically M3's and ATS-V's are going to be out of my price range unless I get a pretty old one. I paid 20k for a 3 year old G37 with 55k miles on it. and I won't be able to afford double that for my next car.
I'm surprised none of the sedan-ers are mentioning the Jaguar XE. I've been watching and early depreciation looks promising for finding one of the V6 models for under 30k when they get 3 years old and the leases start coming back to the dealers.
#985
I was really interested in the RS3 for the incredible acceleration and AWD. Today I looked up tuning options for the M3 and ATS-V. You can get the M3 to 515 hp and 540 lb-ft. at the wheels for $1,400 with just a tune and intake and the ATS-V to almost the same levels for $888 with just a tune!?! That is awesome! RS3 who?
#986
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The Teslas are a blast. I’ve had quite a bit of behind the wheel time behind the S and a short time behind a 3. The 3 is just the right size for me. Splurged for the performance package to get it earlier. 0-60 in 3.5 will be fun. As will never getting gas again. ))
#987
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Agreed. But my car isn't getting any younger.
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Realistically M3's and ATS-V's are going to be out of my price range unless I get a pretty old one.
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Pretty much this. I have $40K to spend, tops. Which puts M3s and ATS-Vs just a bit out of my price range.
Rochester is my ghost of Christmas future what with college expenses and such
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Realistically M3's and ATS-V's are going to be out of my price range unless I get a pretty old one.
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Pretty much this. I have $40K to spend, tops. Which puts M3s and ATS-Vs just a bit out of my price range.
Rochester is my ghost of Christmas future what with college expenses and such
#988
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XE is at the top of the list with the Q50 RS400 for me...in several years. I drove the 340hp 3.0 supercharged model. It was fun, and it had more torque by a decent margin. It felt about the same or marginally faster in speed. Interior, although nicer, felt...more cramped/cozier???? It's hard to describe. I do love the way the XE is designed. Biggest gripe for both the RS400 and the XE is no limited slip.
#989
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Search the thread for Jaguar XE... it's been discussed often.
The XE is one of those cars that takes a fantastic picture, and checks all the right boxes by reviewers. And yet for me, personally, it's an underwhelming experience in person. So much so that I didn't even bother test-driving.
The XE is one of those cars that takes a fantastic picture, and checks all the right boxes by reviewers. And yet for me, personally, it's an underwhelming experience in person. So much so that I didn't even bother test-driving.
#990
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BUT, my car isn't getting any younger like you say (i'm just under 60k miles but coming up on 10yrs in service) and eventually things will start to go wrong. so, what is the tipping point? i don't know. and since new tech features and driving nannies are not high on my list, the new car must shine with its mechanical content, build quality, reliability, and fun-to-drive quota.
i do have a (refundable) deposit down on a Genesis G70 RWD 6MT which will come out some time later this summer. time, and the eventual test drive, will tell if that is a viable alternative to the G. but it would break my personal rule of not buying brand new vehicles - i always go for 1-2 year old 'mint' vehicles to avoid the initial depreciation hit. since i keep my cars a long time, if the G70 is a winner the depreciation would be amortized over a long period and i may have to live with it.