What vehicle will be a worthy replacement for your sedan when it is time?
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Haha, yeah, I'm from WELL back in the past century as well, thanks for the reminder. 
If you can't get past big grills, your options from the past 5-8 years is pretty limited. The automotive trend in general the past 10 years has been towards big grills and clean cut lines. Personally, I like the front end of the Q50, it's well executed and rather menacing looking, particularly the Red Sport models. I would have given the Red Sport a serious look if they had improved the transmission, suspension, and technology features as much as the upgrade from the VQ37VHR to the VR30DDTT. Most of the modern twin turbo V6 engines are pretty stout off the showroom floor, and tuning potential is nothing short of outstanding, but the engine is just about all that the Q50 RS has going for it, unlike the G70 and the Stinger.
It's sad that Kia is killing off the Stinger in a few months, but considering they sell the Telluride and the Carnival at a rate of 9-1 compared to the Stinger, I understand the move. I'll be curious to see if the Lambda II 3.3 T-GDi makes it into the Telluride (perfect MDX Type-S competition) or the K5 GT gets offered with AWD after the Stinger is gone. The K5 GT with AWD would take a monster bite out of that limited market segment and punch well above its price point. Just out of curiosity, which model Stinger did you buy?
If you can't get past big grills, your options from the past 5-8 years is pretty limited. The automotive trend in general the past 10 years has been towards big grills and clean cut lines. Personally, I like the front end of the Q50, it's well executed and rather menacing looking, particularly the Red Sport models. I would have given the Red Sport a serious look if they had improved the transmission, suspension, and technology features as much as the upgrade from the VQ37VHR to the VR30DDTT. Most of the modern twin turbo V6 engines are pretty stout off the showroom floor, and tuning potential is nothing short of outstanding, but the engine is just about all that the Q50 RS has going for it, unlike the G70 and the Stinger.
It's sad that Kia is killing off the Stinger in a few months, but considering they sell the Telluride and the Carnival at a rate of 9-1 compared to the Stinger, I understand the move. I'll be curious to see if the Lambda II 3.3 T-GDi makes it into the Telluride (perfect MDX Type-S competition) or the K5 GT gets offered with AWD after the Stinger is gone. The K5 GT with AWD would take a monster bite out of that limited market segment and punch well above its price point. Just out of curiosity, which model Stinger did you buy?
Say what? They're discontinuing the Stinger already? Does that mean it's going to become a rare collectible in the future?
On another note, I'm very curious how the new Acura Integra Type-S will perform. I don't think the details have emerged on it yet, but they're assuming it may inherit the CTR motor which would be really sweet. The standard Integra is getting the Civic's 2.0T though.
On another note, I'm very curious how the new Acura Integra Type-S will perform. I don't think the details have emerged on it yet, but they're assuming it may inherit the CTR motor which would be really sweet. The standard Integra is getting the Civic's 2.0T though.
Say what? They're discontinuing the Stinger already? Does that mean it's going to become a rare collectible in the future?
On another note, I'm very curious how the new Acura Integra Type-S will perform. I don't think the details have emerged on it yet, but they're assuming it may inherit the CTR motor which would be really sweet. The standard Integra is getting the Civic's 2.0T though.
On another note, I'm very curious how the new Acura Integra Type-S will perform. I don't think the details have emerged on it yet, but they're assuming it may inherit the CTR motor which would be really sweet. The standard Integra is getting the Civic's 2.0T though.
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The reason they discontinued the RSX was because it was competing with the Civic / SI. I don't understand this move with the new Integra.
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Keep in mind I'm still planning to get a spoiler and an OEM front lip to complete my exterior mods.Re: Stinger getting stung. Yes, a bit of a shame '22 (maybe '23) will be the last year. Kia never marketed the car well. A bit like the chevy ss which had an even shorter run. As I get older, car requirements change more to meet needs than wants. I'd love to get new sway bars for it, but installation of the rear bar is a royal pita. For the 2-3x a year I have fun with the car, the effort is not worth it. It's definitely no g37, but ~85%. Can you fit a 65" tv box into a G....? You can into a stinger.
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I'll be ordering the matching paint color lip directly from Infiniti. I'm not much of a fan of black lips / side skirts on a different body color. The black theme has been overdone in the past several years that even OEM cars are coming this way.
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I've never considered things like "speed assist", "lane change alert", "autonomous emergency braking" and other, so called, safety features to be nearly as critical to crash survivability as chassis design and driver skill. All of these "safety features" are designed to keep the driver from exceeding his mediocre skill level while being driven by his/her ego. If you wish to drive a vehicle to the limit of its capabilities, and actually have the skill to do so, these devices do nothing more than limit your attempt.
IMHO crash test statistics should measure the vehicle's ability to maintain adequate driver protection during and after various impact scenarios and less concern over what "packages" the owner can afford. This lack of a "level playing field" makes the actual rating far less critical
I've never considered things like "speed assist", "lane change alert", "autonomous emergency braking" and other, so called, safety features to be nearly as critical to crash survivability as chassis design and driver skill. All of these "safety features" are designed to keep the driver from exceeding his mediocre skill level while being driven by his/her ego. If you wish to drive a vehicle to the limit of its capabilities, and actually have the skill to do so, these devices do nothing more than limit your attempt.
IMHO crash test statistics should measure the vehicle's ability to maintain adequate driver protection during and after various impact scenarios and less concern over what "packages" the owner can afford. This lack of a "level playing field" makes the actual rating far less critical
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^^That's been my understanding of crash test ratings as well. I can see how forward collision avoidance can apply brakes before the driver realizes they need to, and/or apply them with more force. However, all that is not a crash 'rating', rather a category of collision avoidance/mitigation. I suppose given folks' minimal ability to think, government see best to classify these under the "crash" category instead. They know what's best after all...
Level playing field. What's that.......
Level playing field. What's that.......