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Funny you should mention the Camaro. I think at this angle from the rear side window back it looks very much like a Camaro, especially the taillight. I never thought I would see the day where I make a comparison to a Camaro as the part of a BMW's style that does not look so bad, but here we are.
Funny you should mention the Camaro. I think at this angle from the rear side window back it looks very much like a Camaro, especially the taillight. I never thought I would see the day where I make a comparison to a Camaro as the part of a BMW's style that does not look so bad, but here we are.
Personally, I'm seeing more Camry than Camaro, partially because in profile you lose the aggressive fender bulges. I've always thought the Taillights on the G20 looked like they belonged on a Camry, so I might have been primed to see it here. In fact, from that angle the front and back don't look like they belong on the same car, although the 4 series has always been a little awkward proportionally.
I saw that on the CT5-V Blackwing the other day. Hopefully, those cool seats make it into the smaller and lighter CT4-V Blackwing.
Originally Posted by woofersus
Personally, I'm seeing more Camry than Camaro, partially because in profile you lose the aggressive fender bulges. I've always thought the Taillights on the G20 looked like they belonged on a Camry, so I might have been primed to see it here. In fact, from that angle the front and back don't look like they belong on the same car, although the 4 series has always been a little awkward proportionally.
I'm not sure how you see Camry there with their weird black roofs, and big fake vents below the taillights, but I am glad to see you also think the front and rear ends looked like they were from different cars. I thought the same thing about the proportions of the M4. For some reason I always found the 4 dr. M3 to be more attractive on the last generation. I thought it was just because I was getting older, but it is probably due to the wider rear fenders on the M3 vs. M4. It's a nice subtle touch that makes it looks more aggressive.
Hmmmmmmm, my sedan has 100k on it tight now but I plan to get it to at least 300k. By the time I’m ready to replace it, I’m hoping I can afford:
Chevy SS, Scat Pack Charger widebody, Audi S4/RS4/S6/RS6, Caddy CTS-V, etc...
Hopefully one of those or something similar will be in my future 👌
I think it looks fine and it will look better when it comes to production. I'm surprised it doesn't have a flat bottom steering wheel as all of the other non performance Nissan's have one.
I wonder if Nissan.....
- fixed the rear subframe bushing
- upgraded the clutch hydraulics
- fixed the common issues on the VR30 platform
They had a habit of snapping belts and some turbo issues..Those are the issues I am aware of.
The belt snapping (aka "falling off") is a weird issue, but when it happens the belt yanks/pulls out all the wiring harness it hits AND that is not a cheap fix.
BUT with a good tune and a few aftermarket parts I saw multiple Q50s run in the *LOW* 11's this summer in the quarter mile.
That sure makes our VHR seem slow when we run 13-14s with all bolt-ons and a tune.
Got that right - they can be very quick with just a few bolt-ons; they live up to the 'baby GTR' moniker. I'd be lying if I said I haven't perused them more than a few times. As a DD, they'd probably check every box for me...the price of them surely doesn't hurt either.
Got that right - they can be very quick with just a few bolt-ons; they live up to the 'baby GTR' moniker. I'd be lying if I said I haven't perused them more than a few times. As a DD, they'd probably check every box for me...the price of them surely doesn't hurt either.
That is a great motor they have in the Q50/Q60, but I am afraid the car itself is a bit of a one trick pony. Quick in a straight line with the right mods, but everything else is just ok compared to our cars. I am excited to see how this motor works in the new Z which should be a much better platform for it with the stick shift and significantly improved dynamics/handling. It has the potential to be a really great car. I just hope that it is. I am also holding out hope that the news that Nissan was able to figure out how to produce carbon fiber significantly cheaper at about the same time they released the Z proto means they will actually use some in the new Z. They say that the chassis is "significantly modified" from the 370Z. Could that mean a carbon fiber chassis? Wishful thinking, but how awesome would that be?!?
I have an approachable retirement fantasy, where my DD is a comfortable but not-too-large crossover with a respectable 250+ hp and lots of luxury tech and appointments. Meanwhile there's a car like the new 400Z 6MT sitting in the garage, obsessed over and slowly modified, available for sunny day romps.
Could happen. I'm not too far off the mark right now with my G and the wife's Subby, so this is an entirely reasonable plan.
That new Z has been parked rent free in my head for a while now.
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I'm not too far off the mark right now with my G and the wife's Subby, so this is an entirely reasonable plan.