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What vehicle will be a worthy replacement for your sedan when it is time?

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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 01:11 PM
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Well that's all subjective. I don't see how you could even compare a charger to a S4/A4.. Personally I think that charger looks horrible.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pato A. Vidal
Disagree on the A4. For a Quattro A4 money you can get a Charger R/T, which is faster (sounds better (cooler looking(and fairly luxurious)))


BETTER THAN AN A4 QUATTRO

V8 5.7L sound never gets old.

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Still a head turner with the HEMI badge on the fender.
Sound aside, it's a Dodge, on an incredibly dated platform (2006), and "fairly luxurious" c'mon man, the interior quality borders on hideous. They post nearly identical acceleration times up until 100, but the Audi stops shorter, handles better, has a dual clutch transmission and pulls an extra 5-6 mpg on the highway

A $400 JB4 piggyback tune would easily make up any acceleration shortfall.

I could probably be tempted by a 6MT SRT8 Charger......but an automatic R/T, nah.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 01:59 PM
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Man that is pretty. Even with the stripes. What museum? I'll be in Germany in a few weeks traveling all over; might have to stop and see.

Simplicity = fun is certainly a point. Exhibit A: Miata. Hard to find more grins-per-dollar. Is it the omega of cars? No. But it doesn't need to be.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:14 PM
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An 2017 Audi A4 does not run side by side with a 2017 Charger RT. The looks may be subjective. I can't remember the last time someone's stock A4 got me excited... LOL. Please be careful not to mention S4 and A4 in the same argument. These are two different models at different prices...
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:19 PM
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For over a decade, I've thought the Charger and Challenger look awesome at a distance. Up close it gets awkward. And inside it gets wrong.

Sure looks good on paper, though. And the cars can positively drip with nostalgia, even brand new. That's a heck of a trick.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
Sound aside, it's a Dodge, on an incredibly dated platform (2006), and "fairly luxurious" c'mon man, the interior quality borders on hideous. They post nearly identical acceleration times up until 100, but the Audi stops shorter, handles better, has a dual clutch transmission and pulls an extra 5-6 mpg on the highway

A $400 JB4 piggyback tune would easily make up any acceleration shortfall.

I could probably be tempted by a 6MT SRT8 Charger......but an automatic R/T, nah.
The charger R/T will hit 100 MPH 3 seconds before an Audi A4 does. If you are convinced that they are so close in acceleration then feel free to buy one. But don't say I didn't warn you However, the charger R/T is not an option if you are looking for a clutch pedal.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:23 PM
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You're completely delusional as to what it takes to build those cars to the point where they are putting down that much power. Look into any build that is pushing those blocks to 600+ whp and it's going to have considerable internal work. Sorry to burst your bubble but they are far from stock internals my friend. That said, you can build any block to withstand that power. It's like you won't even consider you can build the motors of new cars too.

Not sure why you have to be condescending if someone has a differing opinion. Saying someone isn't a 'man' if they don't like what you do? Alright guy.

Lastly, you honestly believe you were giving a F80 M3 any competition in your G37? Do you have a FBO 2002 Civic EX as your other race car?
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:24 PM
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Well that's all subjective. I don't see how you could even compare a charger to a S4/A4.. Personally I think that charger looks horrible.
S4 is NOT equal to A4
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pato A. Vidal
An 2017 Audi A4 does not run side by side with a 2017 Charger RT. The looks may be subjective. I can't remember the last time someone's stock A4 got me excited... LOL. Please be careful not to mention S4 and A4 in the same argument. These are two different models at different prices...
2015 Hemi Charger, 0-60 in 5.1 seconds, 13.7@105 in the 1/4
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...0our%20scales.

2017 A4, 0-60 in 5.2 seconds, 13.9@100 in the 1/4
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...o-test-review/

Originally Posted by Pato A. Vidal
The charger R/T will hit 100 MPH 3 seconds before an Audi A4 does. If you are convinced that they are so close in acceleration then feel free to buy one. But don't say I didn't warn you However, the charger R/T is not an option if you are looking for a clutch pedal.
Look at the links I posted. It's a 1.7 second difference to 100.

I did buy one, for my wife

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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pato A. Vidal
An 2017 Audi A4 does not run side by side with a 2017 Charger RT. The looks may be subjective. I can't remember the last time someone's stock A4 got me excited... LOL. Please be careful not to mention S4 and A4 in the same argument. These are two different models at different prices...
yeah theyre not even in the same class. If youre looking to replace something in the same segment as the new q50 sport/red sport...highly recommend test driving the B9 S4's. I got a Jb4 for mine and have walked a majority of street cars that are out there, estimated 435bhp/500tq at the crank. the luxury is out of this world, massaging sport seats (best sport seats ive sat in), pretty much no under-steer due to improved weight distribution, handling is superb. the shifts are so crisp and quick compared to the 7at that ive had for so long. i only had one chance to test the quattro in the snow, but it was really fun in the parking lot!
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
2015 Hemi Charger, 0-60 in 5.1 seconds, 13.7@105 in the 1/4
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...0our%20scales.

2017 A4, 0-60 in 5.2 seconds, 13.9@100 in the 1/4
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...o-test-review/
and with an apr tune, the new A4's are just almost as quick as the B9 S4 in stock form. Then it would really clap the cheeks of the charger.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:38 PM
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and with an apr tune, the new A4's are just almost as quick as the B9 S4 in stock form. Then it would really clap the cheeks of the charger.
I believe a few people have notched kills against stock S4s in JB4 and APR stage 1 tuned A4s.

Those little 2.0 EA888 are stout motors and the DSG is wicked fast. Low 12s high 11s are possible with a downpipe and tune, which is <2K investment. Anyone how says there isn't an aftermarket for modern cars either hasn't researched, or isn't being honest with themselves.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Torque Lewis
and with an apr tune, the new A4's are just almost as quick as the B9 S4 in stock form. Then it would really clap the cheeks of the charger.

$10,000 to be slower?





Faster 0-60 than an all-wheel-drive?


I don't think you get what I'm trying to say. But you should really drive both cars before you make your decision
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
I believe a few people have notched kills against stock S4s in JB4 and APR stage 1 tuned A4s.

Those little 2.0 EA888 are stout motors and the DSG is wicked fast. Low 12s high 11s are possible with a downpipe and tune, which is <2K investment. Anyone how says there isn't an aftermarket for modern cars either hasn't researched, or isn't being honest with themselves.
S4 vs apr stage 1 apr A4 (both B9) should run the same 0-60, but i believe the the S4 still pulls off in the 1/4. Still an amazing improvement over stock though! Best 0-60 ive achieved with the Jb4 has been a 3.9, map 3 so i havent turned it up all the way. both cars are amazing pieces of well thought out engineering. Although the steering is nothing to write to home about, but it seems that pretty much all cars have electronic steering vs. hydraulic these days.
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Old Nov 8, 2019 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pato A. Vidal

$10,000 to be slower?





Faster 0-60 than an all-wheel-drive?


I don't think you get what I'm trying to say. But you should really drive both cars before you make your decision
a strong majority of people buying the A4 arent in it for performance, thats why they have the audi sport division. You're paying that extra money for a more luxurious car. The interior is top tier, some of the highest rated in any car review for even the german midsize sedan segment. You're paying for one of the best AWD systems out there (torsen awd). I'd still take the A4 over the charger, reason being; they're ugly AF.
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