G37 Sedan

What vehicle will be a worthy replacement for your sedan when it is time?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 16, 2019 | 06:01 PM
  #1966  
Rochester's Avatar
Rochester
Administrator
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 19,829
Likes: 5,137
From: Rochester, NY
Originally Posted by Jsolo
I'm about 95% ready to throw in the towel.
Radical changes happen all at once, sometimes with a leap of faith. Good decisions take time.

Take your time.
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2019 | 09:22 AM
  #1967  
Lego_Maniac's Avatar
Lego_Maniac
Registered Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,042
Likes: 528
From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by Jsolo
I'm about 95% ready to throw in the towel. I can't find anything really appealing within the budget allocated (both cars + some cash). Test drove an rdx today which was ok. Can't wrap my head around toggle switches for the gear shift. Something seriously wrong with that. Power was decent but handling eh. Steering felt more natural than the stinger's. There's a local '17 chevy ss with ~1300 miles. Tempting, but can't accept the 14/22 mpg.

G's winter wheels/tires hole pattern fits the accord. Just need to get different hub rings and lug nuts. That takes care of winter driving. G can just sit in the garage with the summer wheels/tires installed. Might have to get something like this to prevet flat spots. https://www.amazon.com/BUNKERWALL-Ti...dp/B073NQ2H6J/ .

Re the G80... a bit too heavy. Curb weight around 4600lb.
I want to like the RDX, because I think it would make a good car for my wife, but AWD withstanding, I don't see how it's any better than an Accord with the same 2.0T and 10 speed auto (or manual). Any benefit of the SH-AWD system is pretty much offset by the weight gain and higher center of gravity.

I too dislike how cars are moving away from gear shifters to buttons.

Why not just sell the Accord and keep the G37? Or are you keeping the Honda for the backseat space for your mom?
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2019 | 06:32 PM
  #1968  
JSolo's Avatar
JSolo
Just say no!!!!!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,103
Likes: 592
From: People's Republic of IL
I really don't see a need for awd for majority of drivers. In more wintry states it's a big selling feature. Proper tires on a fwd or rwd make all the difference.

The rdx is a heavier car, 3800-4K lb, with a higher center of gravity. G is no lightweight either but carries the weight better.

Selling the accord might be an idea too. The accord has been the workhorse. Good space, decent mpg, lots of rear seat and trunk space.

I took a look at another stinger at a different dealership. Again awd (no rwd anywhere), this one was a demo with ~5K miles. Overall reasonably good shape but first thing to catch my attention was the switching on the steering wheel starting to fray. Maybe a result of the person driving the car, but doesn't inspire much confidence in the quality of the car. Sales mgr lost interest once I mentioned it has to be rwd only.

I'm giving myself until the weekend before I put this whole idea to rest.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 12:50 PM
  #1969  
Atowsley's Avatar
Atowsley
Premier Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 160
Likes: 32
From: Dallas, Texas
I love AWD even in Texas, but it's not a necessity unless you brave the occasional ice storms. Nothing out there fits my budget or thrills me where I would consider switching from the G37. Supra maybe, I just couldn't justify buying one. But, I could see leasing one until I remember it's a BMW Z4 with Toyota skin/badging on it. Maybe it will be rock solid, but time will tell. My first and last BMW was junk at 60k miles. Honestly, I think I'm gonna have the G37 forever. I don't see selling it even if I got a new car.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 01:37 PM
  #1970  
Lego_Maniac's Avatar
Lego_Maniac
Registered Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,042
Likes: 528
From: Charlotte, NC
I think AWD depends on the car. Normally I think RWD >= AWD > FWD

But, all things being equal, which they rarely are, I'd rather a FWD car than an AWD SUV.

I think JSOLO has a pretty nice collection of cars, and IIRC, a motorcycle too. Since it doesn't look like he drives much, I'd tuck the G37 away during the winter months and drive the Accord instead and just keep both. Unless space is an issue, then I'd sell the Honda and keep the G37.

My $.02....
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 01:50 PM
  #1971  
BeeW's Avatar
BeeW
Registered Member
 
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 329
Likes: 60
I'd only upgrade to a manual, so considering thise are going the way of the dodo... I dont see a reasonably priced "new" car that could replace the G. Granted the only reason I even have a G is because I scored a F&F deal on the car.

The only current possibly affordable ICE that peaks my interest are the I6 Caymans, and the Alfa Q4 Gulia (but reliability!). Unfortunately my childhood brand, saw a sad spiraling decline into metiocraty, which means I'll never experience the drive of the e36 and e42 M cars in a new model year.

So I guess an electric platform with a retro shell is what's next. (ala Zero Labs, but without the Singer prices). That will probably have to be a project. :/
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 03:37 PM
  #1972  
JSolo's Avatar
JSolo
Just say no!!!!!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,103
Likes: 592
From: People's Republic of IL
Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
I think AWD depends on the car. Normally I think RWD >= AWD > FWD

But, all things being equal, which they rarely are, I'd rather a FWD car than an AWD SUV.

I think JSOLO has a pretty nice collection of cars, and IIRC, a motorcycle too. Since it doesn't look like he drives much, I'd tuck the G37 away during the winter months and drive the Accord instead and just keep both. Unless space is an issue, then I'd sell the Honda and keep the G37.

My $.02....
<<<<<<I wish I still had the bike... Sold it back in 2012 after nearly 20 years of riding. Got tagged from behind on a different bike while waiting at a light. With 250-300K miles on 2 wheels in that time, I figured I should quite while i'm ahead (at least here in IL). A certain ktm super duke gt is of interest ( https://www.ktm.com/us/sports-tourer...super-duke-gt/ scroll down a screen or two).

Space isn't entirely an issue but a car is meant to be driven, not stored, and having multiple vehicles seems excessive since neither one gets used all that much. Only one can fit in the garage at a time. I can drive the accord for now, and/or trade it in later when something appealing appears.

Late last night I had an epiphany - sell the G to an interested party. Rather I reached out a few days ago to someone who might be interested with some details. Said interested party has just about given up trying to find a low miles G 6mt sedan. So timing seems right. We'll see what happens.

ktm pics



review
https://www.cyclenews.com/2018/12/ar...st-impression/

Last edited by JSolo; Jul 26, 2019 at 11:31 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 04:02 PM
  #1973  
Lego_Maniac's Avatar
Lego_Maniac
Registered Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,042
Likes: 528
From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by BeeW
I'd only upgrade to a manual, so considering thise are going the way of the dodo.
The next generation STi and WRX have been confirmed to have a manual. I'm sure the MK8 GTI will offer a 6MT, Golf R is questionable. Both are supposedly going to be out in 2020, but I wouldn't be surprised to see NA Market have to wait for '21. There is still hope for us 3 pedal guys
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 07:21 PM
  #1974  
4DRZ's Avatar
4DRZ
Thread Starter
Registered Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,724
Likes: 697
From: Appleton, WI
Originally Posted by Jsolo
Re the G80... a bit too heavy. Curb weight around 4600lb.
What are you using the car for where weight is a concern? If you want a bigger back seat in a car the size of a Stinger, then the car is probably going to weigh more. If you cannot find a RWD Stinger- what about getting a used Stinger? AWD is a new feature for that car.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 07:47 PM
  #1975  
JSolo's Avatar
JSolo
Just say no!!!!!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,103
Likes: 592
From: People's Republic of IL
Car that heavy will turn/handle like a pig. Have you seen the current rear seat volume of an accord. It's surprisingly large.

Chevy SS sales guy called today. That car is tempting. I may drive out there to look at it. It took is a pig at just shy of 2 tons.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 07:54 PM
  #1976  
4DRZ's Avatar
4DRZ
Thread Starter
Registered Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,724
Likes: 697
From: Appleton, WI
Originally Posted by Jsolo
Car that heavy will turn/handle like a pig. Have you seen the current rear seat volume of an accord. It's surprisingly large.

Chevy SS sales guy called today. That car is tempting. I may drive out there to look at it. It took is a pig at just shy of 2 tons.
Handling on the track at the limit- sure. For a daily driver though I would take the power and refinement of the G80 over an Accord in a heartbeat. They are not even in the same class.

But again, why not look into a used Stinger to get the RWD?
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 07:55 PM
  #1977  
Rochester's Avatar
Rochester
Administrator
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 19,829
Likes: 5,137
From: Rochester, NY
Originally Posted by Jsolo
Car that heavy will turn/handle like a pig. Have you seen the current rear seat volume of an accord. It's surprisingly large.

Chevy SS sales guy called today. That car is tempting. I may drive out there to look at it. It took is a pig at just shy of 2 tons.
I think I've watched this video a dozen times... Well, including now, probably 3 times really. Still, good honest review.


Last edited by Rochester; Jul 18, 2019 at 08:04 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 08:48 PM
  #1978  
4DRZ's Avatar
4DRZ
Thread Starter
Registered Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,724
Likes: 697
From: Appleton, WI
Originally Posted by Rochester
I think I've watched this video a dozen times... Well, including now, probably 3 times really. Still, good honest review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfJjH4oZDTA
That's an interesting review. He does spend a lot of time talking about stuff that most cars have (all the features in the armrest ), but he brings up some good points. The SS caught my attention when it came out when Road & Track compared it to an E39 M5. I could never get over the sheer size or plain styling of the car, especially now that I know it has fake hood and fender vents. But this review got me thinking and researching the car a bit more.

It still seems like a great engine and fantastic suspension covered in a brown paper bag's worth of styling. It is not terribly fast considering the power it has, but most of the articles I read talked about it being a fun driver's car or the reincarnation of an E39 M5. That made me think it would be a fantastic value, but most are priced like a used ATS-V and that makes the ATS-V seem like a much bigger bargain. I was also surprised by the large range of prices on this car. One year and it can be $10,000 difference and they all have almost all the same features?? But if you can find a clean one in that low $30k range without too many miles I think it would be a very fun daily driver.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 08:29 AM
  #1979  
Lego_Maniac's Avatar
Lego_Maniac
Registered Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,042
Likes: 528
From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by Rochester
I think I've watched this video a dozen times... Well, including now, probably 3 times really. Still, good honest review.
I use to think Doug was a d-bag, but I've really grown to like his reviews. He does a fantastic job going over the interior and obscure features.

Originally Posted by 4DRZ
I could never get over the sheer size or plain styling of the car
+1 It's a big car, and i'm sure the magnetic ride works wonders for the cars handling, but there is still no denying it's dimensions and ~4000 pounds.

Originally Posted by 4DRZ
It is not terribly fast considering the power it has
Yeah, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and 13 flat in the 1/4 mile isn't that impressive considering the fuel economy penalty it comes with.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 08:45 AM
  #1980  
Rochester's Avatar
Rochester
Administrator
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 19,829
Likes: 5,137
From: Rochester, NY
Originally Posted by 4DRZ
especially now that I know it has fake hood and fender vents.
I hate that, too, more than I can say. The old Genny Coupe, the new Kia Stinger, even the Alfa Quadrifoglio, and all the other cars with hood vents that aren't actually vents, some that are just solid pieces of plastic. It genuinely makes me angry.


Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
I use to think Doug was a d-bag, but I've really grown to like his reviews. He does a fantastic job going over the interior and obscure features.
Absolutely. I used to cringe watching his videos, but his thoroughness and almost superhuman work ethic over the last few years with hundreds of detailed reviews... I'm a fan now.


Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
Yeah, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and 13 flat in the 1/4 mile isn't that impressive considering the fuel economy penalty it comes with.
4.5 and 13.0 in an entirely usable daily driver with room for 5 and a trunk full of luggage... IDK about that, Lego. It impresses me.

You may or may not remember long ago in this thread, I described an opportunity I had two years ago to drive a modified SS with a 6MT. It was a wonderfully rewarding experience. Loved everything about it, although I felt a little overwhelmed by all the tech.

Last edited by Rochester; Jul 19, 2019 at 08:52 AM.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:18 AM.