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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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So warranty didn't cover it because i have after market toe bolts which are on the crossmember.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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I'm not saying this to say "I told you so", but I guess you have probably now learned to never listen to folks who use the argument "X doesn't have anything to do with X" when taking your car in for warranty service. If it is a part of the same system (or even close) of the car and you've modded it, it can and will be used to deny a warranty claim. Anyone who believes otherwise has either been very lucky with their warranty claim experiences or is naive. People who make the argument that you can fight it becasue of Magnusen-Moss warranty act have never actually fought that battle. Because if they had, they'd know that in cases like this where you get denied because of you mods, even those that have nothing to do with the issue, it's a lot easier and cheaper to just put the car back to stock and make it a non-issue than to get denied and fight a court battle. If you'd spent a few hours putting the OEM parts back on or paid someone a couple hundred bucks to do it, you car would be getting the bushing replaced right now.

You'd have probably gotten away with the test pipes becasue it's a completely different system and they might not have noticed it. Let us know if you change it to something other than OEM and what your results are please.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Well you are right in a way, the only thing is they didn't change it because of the aftermarket toe bolts. I couldn't change those back to stock since the crossmember was already drilled to make the bigger toe bolt fit. I talked to the service guy and he just wouldn't understand how the toe bolt has bothing to do with the diff bushing. Oh well i guess i'll just drive it like this until I find a aftermarket one.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 6mtg37s
Well you are right in a way, the only thing is they didn't change it because of the aftermarket toe bolts. I couldn't change those back to stock since the crossmember was already drilled to make the bigger toe bolt fit. I talked to the service guy and he just wouldn't understand how the toe bolt has bothing to do with the diff bushing. Oh well i guess i'll just drive it like this until I find a aftermarket one.
Thats BS.

You can hand him the factory toe bolts, have them install those while putting the car back together.
Either way the SPC toe bolts will still fit without elongating the hole, it just wont have as much adjustment.

The only excuse he can truly lean on, is that the crossmember was modified by elongating the holes, and would be a rejected warranty claim.
IF the factory came to inspect the warranty part before discarding.

A dealer with reputable standing with Infiniti warranty doe not need to hold warrantied parts for inspection.

I spent too many years as a dealer tech!!
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
People who make the argument that you can fight it becasue of Magnusen-Moss warranty act have never actually fought that battle. Because if they had, they'd know that in cases like this where you get denied because of you mods, even those that have nothing to do with the issue,

But those that can hold a cerebral debate with the dealer, while showing no emotion as in anger win the battle every time!!
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 6mtg37s
Well you are right in a way, the only thing is they didn't change it because of the aftermarket toe bolts. I couldn't change those back to stock since the crossmember was already drilled to make the bigger toe bolt fit. I talked to the service guy and he just wouldn't understand how the toe bolt has bothing to do with the diff bushing. Oh well i guess i'll just drive it like this until I find a aftermarket one.
Take it to Thousand Oaks Infiniti, and see what they say. Bring the stock bolts in hand.

Mine is dropped with an intake exhaust, wheel spacers, and a tune.
While my car was parked there, it sealed two sales deals.
Some dealers love to see a modded G. This dealer especially.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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But those that can hold a cerebral debate with the dealer, while showing no emotion as in anger win the battle every time!!
Uh, no they don't. There are many times when a person can eloquently state how their modification in no way affects the issue at hand and they are very often still denied warranty service anyway as a matter of course. This example is a perfect one. You know, I know, the OP knows, and the service people at that dealership know (probably) that elongating that hole for the toe bolts by 1/4" is not in any way affecting the busing in question. Yet it is still a modification of that part of the car and is (in their minds) legitimate grounds for denying his claim. And if he took it to court (which would take forever and cost many, many times what replacing the bushing actually costs) he'd lose. So it's not even worth the effort.

Sometimes a reasonable service writer or service manager will go ahead and perform the repair becasue they are using common sense. The next dealership might not. Just becasue you are right and can state a reasonable case like an intelligent and respectful person does not mean that they'll listen or perform the work.

OP- best case scenario, take it to a different dealership and hope for the best. And you might want to go ahead and put everything back there back to stock before doing so. Or take your chances getting the same result from a different place.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
Take it to Thousand Oaks Infiniti, and see what they say. Bring the stock bolts in hand.

Mine is dropped with an intake exhaust, wheel spacers, and a tune.
While my car was parked there, it sealed two sales deals.
Some dealers love to see a modded G. This dealer especially.
This is very annoying, I'm going to try different dealerships, I hate how they make a bad product and don't stand behind it because of a stupid toe bolt. As much as I love nissan, I'm kind of fed up with all their new products. Nissans used to be much better built then this.

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Uh, no they don't. There are many times when a person can eloquently state how their modification in no way affects the issue at hand and they are very often still denied warranty service anyway as a matter of course. This example is a perfect one. You know, I know, the OP knows, and the service people at that dealership know (probably) that elongating that hole for the toe bolts by 1/4" is not in any way affecting the busing in question. Yet it is still a modification of that part of the car and is (in their minds) legitimate grounds for denying his claim. And if he took it to court (which would take forever and cost many, many times what replacing the bushing actually costs) he'd lose. So it's not even worth the effort.

Sometimes a reasonable service writer or service manager will go ahead and perform the repair becasue they are using common sense. The next dealership might not. Just becasue you are right and can state a reasonable case like an intelligent and respectful person does not mean that they'll listen or perform the work.

OP- best case scenario, take it to a different dealership and hope for the best. And you might want to go ahead and put everything back there back to stock before doing so. Or take your chances getting the same result from a different place.
Can I put my stock toe bolts on with the crossmember drilled to fit the aftermarket ones? Won't it be loose?
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 6mtg37s
This is very annoying, I'm going to try different dealerships, I hate how they make a bad product and don't stand behind it because of a stupid toe bolt. As much as I love nissan, I'm kind of fed up with all their new products. Nissans used to be much better built then this.


Can I put my stock toe bolts on with the crossmember drilled to fit the aftermarket ones? Won't it be loose?
Silicone filled bushings are not new to Nissan.

Yes, you can. The hole was only elongated the long way.

The bolt's diameter is the same, only the eccentric is bigger on the SPC.

At least thats how I did mine.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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If all else fails, call Precision Z in Chatsworth.
Ask them if the 350Z/G35 Energy suspension urethane diff bushings will fit at G37.
Maybe they have attempted it.
http://www.z1motorsports.com/350_g35...oducts_id=5235
I would think that Nissan would have kept that tooling spec through the G37/370Z.

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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
Silicone filled bushings are not new to Nissan.

Yes, you can. The hole was only elongated the long way.

The bolt's diameter is the same, only the eccentric is bigger on the SPC.

At least thats how I did mine.
That is great news, I have the Ichiba one, they are pretty much the same thing. So you just put the factory toe bolt and it's good to go? I don't think they had a problem with the springs, they had a problem with the toe bolt. I think I might just put it back and call up the dealer.
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 04:26 AM
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Good news guys! Especially for me and Black Betty! So apparently whiteline announced at sema that they are going to make a bushing for our cars. Hope this works out.
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