Review Z1 Motorsports Transmission mount/bushing on '13 G37S 6spd.
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Z1 Motorsports Transmission mount/bushing on '13 G37S 6spd.
I have had this on my car for a week now to take out the awful shifter slop. Initially I was skeptical because I previously had a Drop Engineering transmission mount on my 370Z and it vibrated so loudly that it sounded like someone had removed my exhaust entirely!?! Needless to say, I removed that part immediately.
INSTALLATION & FITMENT: The installation of this part is a breeze and much simpler if you have access to a lift and a support for the transmission. If you are doing shifter springs as well, this is a great time to do them. The build quality of this part is impressive. It will probably outlast my car.
NVH: Initially I noticed that this part still increases NVH, especially past 3k rpm with the windows up. I drove around on it for a week to make sure I was ok with the part. I am not sure if the bushing softened up, my Stillen exhaust got slightly louder, or I just got used to it. Probably a combination of the three.
Overall: I would recommend this part if you are sick of the shifter slop, already have a louder exhaust, and do not mind a little more noise at higher rpms.
INSTALLATION & FITMENT: The installation of this part is a breeze and much simpler if you have access to a lift and a support for the transmission. If you are doing shifter springs as well, this is a great time to do them. The build quality of this part is impressive. It will probably outlast my car.
NVH: Initially I noticed that this part still increases NVH, especially past 3k rpm with the windows up. I drove around on it for a week to make sure I was ok with the part. I am not sure if the bushing softened up, my Stillen exhaust got slightly louder, or I just got used to it. Probably a combination of the three.
Overall: I would recommend this part if you are sick of the shifter slop, already have a louder exhaust, and do not mind a little more noise at higher rpms.
Last edited by Rochester; 05-22-2019 at 08:43 AM. Reason: Added "review" prefix
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Can you provide us with more detail please?
NVH at idle?
NVH at 1,800-2,500rpm under little to mild throttle
NVH at 2,500rpm then stomping on it?
NVH at 3,000rpm on the highway?
NVH at 5,000rpm and up?
Just curious what the overall feel is and has the NVH lessened since you initially had it installed? I'm very close to getting this, I have a 7AT though and your findings are valuable to the community as there are several others on the fence about this mount.
NVH at idle?
NVH at 1,800-2,500rpm under little to mild throttle
NVH at 2,500rpm then stomping on it?
NVH at 3,000rpm on the highway?
NVH at 5,000rpm and up?
Just curious what the overall feel is and has the NVH lessened since you initially had it installed? I'm very close to getting this, I have a 7AT though and your findings are valuable to the community as there are several others on the fence about this mount.
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No problem. Keep in mind I have a Stillen exhaust so I will hear less noise from the trans. mount than with a stock exhaust. The Stillen is pretty quiet as far as aftermarket exhausts, but I still hear the exhaust more than noise from the trans mount.
At idle and low rpms the trans mount noise is very mild. On the highway at 70-75mph I am in 6th and just under 3k rpms and again I do not notice it. I usually only notice it at all around 3,000 rpms, but I am just a shift away from making it quiet.
I would imagine on an A/T the trans mount would be fairly quiet too as the A/T would normally probably shift earlier than I do, unless you are in Sport mode.
At idle and low rpms the trans mount noise is very mild. On the highway at 70-75mph I am in 6th and just under 3k rpms and again I do not notice it. I usually only notice it at all around 3,000 rpms, but I am just a shift away from making it quiet.
I would imagine on an A/T the trans mount would be fairly quiet too as the A/T would normally probably shift earlier than I do, unless you are in Sport mode.
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Good to see you drive like I drive. I would say under WOT I hear my exhaust more than I hear the mount. I would think you would be fine, especially since you have an intake. I just have a catback exhaust right now. Actually, the slight noise I hear from the trans mount under load actually makes the exhaust sound a bit like a V8 since it is a slightly lower tone. I wonder if you will even hear it with your intake.
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Link: https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...nt-p-6580.html
With some humility, I have to say this mod never crossed my mind until I read your review. I really ought to troll Z1's website more often.
And I'm interested, OP. Very very interested. On my last car, I replaced the engine torque mount bushings with solid poly bushings from Energy Suspension. There was a great deal more NVH, but all that was forgiven because of the way it changed power delivery, and the way it smoothed out shifting. The perception of improved throttle response was fantastic.
It seems to me this little tranny mount could be a middle-ground mod, without all the harshness of having stiff engine mount bushings.
With some humility, I have to say this mod never crossed my mind until I read your review. I really ought to troll Z1's website more often.
And I'm interested, OP. Very very interested. On my last car, I replaced the engine torque mount bushings with solid poly bushings from Energy Suspension. There was a great deal more NVH, but all that was forgiven because of the way it changed power delivery, and the way it smoothed out shifting. The perception of improved throttle response was fantastic.
It seems to me this little tranny mount could be a middle-ground mod, without all the harshness of having stiff engine mount bushings.
Last edited by Rochester; 10-15-2015 at 02:57 PM.
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However, before this tranny mount, I'm planning on replacing the rear diff frame mount bushing as part of the rear gear swap. So this isn't on my list until Fall 2016.
Last edited by Rochester; 10-20-2015 at 08:46 AM.
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Regarding Installation: FWIW, due in part to NVH and finding the part out of torque spec two times, I went with some Threadlocker Red and have no more issues.
Spirited Daily Driver too. That's why I remove this mod in the winter/wet season.
Spirited Daily Driver too. That's why I remove this mod in the winter/wet season.
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I literally started laughing as I drove down the street after installation. It was genuinely comical. My immediate thought was, "How on earth does the solid mount feel/sound?!?" I wanted to share my initial feelings objectively now before variables change. I currently still have stock exhaust installed. I wish I could have someone with this mount with louder exhaust to take a ride with me for comparison purposes. From the other reviews, increase in NVH seems minimal. My reaction? It is NOT minimal. I am not exaggerating for effect. Definitely, racecar.
Also, I don't really feel a considerable difference in the shifter feel. With 150k miles, I thought this would be a fairly big change in shift response. It's not.
I've only driven about 30 miles with it, and I like it in an entertainingly eccentric way. I am sure it will 'loosen up' a bit after a couple hundred miles or so. I've also got a Stillen exhaust from the Black Friday sale that was delivered this week. I'm going to have my buddy drive it when he gets home to get his take on it. Then, I'll put the exhaust on, wait another hundred miles, and return for a followup assessment.
Also, I don't really feel a considerable difference in the shifter feel. With 150k miles, I thought this would be a fairly big change in shift response. It's not.
I've only driven about 30 miles with it, and I like it in an entertainingly eccentric way. I am sure it will 'loosen up' a bit after a couple hundred miles or so. I've also got a Stillen exhaust from the Black Friday sale that was delivered this week. I'm going to have my buddy drive it when he gets home to get his take on it. Then, I'll put the exhaust on, wait another hundred miles, and return for a followup assessment.
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Wait, what's going on in your profile? Did you move to Georgia?
In other words, the assumptions on NVH for these mounts is backwards: the motor mounts are tame, and the transmission mount is harsh.
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Last edited by Rochester; 12-06-2018 at 02:52 PM.
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I literally started laughing as I drove down the street after installation. It was genuinely comical. My immediate thought was, "How on earth does the solid mount feel/sound?!?" I wanted to share my initial feelings objectively now before variables change. I currently still have stock exhaust installed. I wish I could have someone with this mount with louder exhaust to take a ride with me for comparison purposes. From the other reviews, increase in NVH seems minimal. My reaction? It is NOT minimal. I am not exaggerating for effect. Definitely, racecar.
Also, I don't really feel a considerable difference in the shifter feel. With 150k miles, I thought this would be a fairly big change in shift response. It's not.
I've only driven about 30 miles with it, and I like it in an entertainingly eccentric way. I am sure it will 'loosen up' a bit after a couple hundred miles or so. I've also got a Stillen exhaust from the Black Friday sale that was delivered this week. I'm going to have my buddy drive it when he gets home to get his take on it. Then, I'll put the exhaust on, wait another hundred miles, and return for a followup assessment.
Also, I don't really feel a considerable difference in the shifter feel. With 150k miles, I thought this would be a fairly big change in shift response. It's not.
I've only driven about 30 miles with it, and I like it in an entertainingly eccentric way. I am sure it will 'loosen up' a bit after a couple hundred miles or so. I've also got a Stillen exhaust from the Black Friday sale that was delivered this week. I'm going to have my buddy drive it when he gets home to get his take on it. Then, I'll put the exhaust on, wait another hundred miles, and return for a followup assessment.
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I'll add my experience with the Z1 transmission mount here also. I'll add more as I drive the car.
At the moment, I have the car on jack stand still. I started the car up and at idle there's a subtle vibration. The vibration is more felt as I rev the engine. I thought my y-pipe was hitting the chassis or transmission cross member, but it was actually from the stiffness of the transmission mount. Hopefully, I'll have the car done this week to drive it to experience it with load and on the road.
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At the moment, I have the car on jack stand still. I started the car up and at idle there's a subtle vibration. The vibration is more felt as I rev the engine. I thought my y-pipe was hitting the chassis or transmission cross member, but it was actually from the stiffness of the transmission mount. Hopefully, I'll have the car done this week to drive it to experience it with load and on the road.
Latez