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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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i think that would rock.... but only 302 hp with turbo? the new G is rated around 300 na already.........now all we need is TWIN TURBO for the G........can you say see ya to the BMW!!!
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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German hp has always been underrated relative to our G's... E46 330 with 225 hp were much closer match to our cars than the delta of hp would lead you to believe
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vlm7
German hp has always been underrated relative to our G's... E46 330 with 225 hp were much closer match to our cars than the delta of hp would lead you to believe
I drove my sister E46 330i........the car is slow at lower RPM but really quick and smooth at 3rd gear......but there is NO way It can match the G35 coupe......
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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ive driven afriend's 330CI as well as the new E90 330i at taste of Lexus earlier this year, its not nearly as fast as my car. not even close. BMWs are not underated at all, nor are they overated.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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BMW often uses the hoserpower at the wheels, versus the crank. So you'd be comparing 225 to like 335. Of course torque is a better performance measure, and the curves are even more important.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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looks like the outgoing civic coupe. the rear portion does definately. heh.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nmanti
BMW often uses the hoserpower at the wheels, versus the crank. So you'd be comparing 225 to like 335. Of course torque is a better performance measure, and the curves are even more important.

I agree. not quite at the wheel, but pretty close i think. similar to lexus/toyota new rating system that's more standardize. That's why the IS350 is rated at 300HP instead of the 350 that it was originally projected to make.


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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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IS350 is fast....That car pulls like a mother ******..
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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its just rated by the new SAE NET standard... toyota and honda have a history of overating their cars. After the industrial wide switch to the SAE NET standard many cars went down in hp. Some expamples would be, Avalon (with the is350 engine) went down to 268 from 280, Camry v6/lexus ES went down to 210 from 230. acura TL went down to 258 from 270. Mazda RX8 went down to 232 from 238.
SAE net rating is still no where close to whp. From what Ive read on IS forum, the IS350 dynos around 240-250whp
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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It still makes the same quarter mile times (on paper) as we do, so if their motor would be rated at 350 vs my 298, they must have some significant loses. Weight isnt a factor between our cars either.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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So they finally did it? Going turbo? Oh boy BMW must be in some serious shiat to go against their belief... whats next? Front Wheel Drive?
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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lol.. that would be funny.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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looks pretty nice. but not enough power to be turbo'd
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Time to TRADE in ..........
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by terryw
its just rated by the new SAE NET standard... toyota and honda have a history of overating their cars. After the industrial wide switch to the SAE NET standard many cars went down in hp. Some expamples would be, Avalon (with the is350 engine) went down to 268 from 280, Camry v6/lexus ES went down to 210 from 230. acura TL went down to 258 from 270. Mazda RX8 went down to 232 from 238.
SAE net rating is still no where close to whp. From what Ive read on IS forum, the IS350 dynos around 240-250whp

I can't believe the rx-8 only went down 6HP? I thought those things were super overated. The delta should be greater, as appose to a small margin for those manufacturer that underate their powers (like BMW). I guess Mazda gave up on the 8 cuz they have a new 3 coming out with a smaller version of the new mazdaspeed 6 engine. That's suppose to push 250 HP from a 2.3 liter turbo 4, not sure if it's awd also or not. They must be trying hard to get people to forget about the rx-8 by making all these newer family/economy sedan more powerful than their sportcar.


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