Sedan Chat Thread
Welcome to the site! Any mods planned for the future?
One thing I will mention, you might need to bump that dent out before installing a front lip. Otherwise, go buy a sport bumper on eBay with free shipping and get that painted and installed. Will really tie the whole front end together
Also, get a midnight grille
One thing I will mention, you might need to bump that dent out before installing a front lip. Otherwise, go buy a sport bumper on eBay with free shipping and get that painted and installed. Will really tie the whole front end together

Also, get a midnight grille

Mods, most likely just lower and wheels... Its auto so I dont see a reason for engine mods... Maybe a short ram like the pic above. Hehehe!
I have not done researched by I might have to check out that midnight grill.
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This is quite the hilarious discussion. If the asymmetrical tire is mounted properly (with the lettering that clearly says "outside" is mounted on the "out" side of the wheel) you can do a full 4 wheel rotation. Only exception is if you have a directional set of wheels that wouldn't look right if they were mounted on the wrong side of the car, or a staggered setup, (but you could still side to side rotate in that case).
But continue on....................
But continue on....................

I think the tires you and other people are thinking about are symmetrical, meaning they have the exact same design throughout the tread (which means they can be swapped and rotated).
Clear as mud everyone?
Rotation is useless on a staggered set up though. That's because you can only rotate from side to side and like Rochester and I said, since they would both have the exact same wear pattern why would you rotate then? The only only other option is taking the tire completely off and swapping them with the other but since the PSS have an inside and outside that is not advisable because then the outside thicker rubber on the tire (used for handling/wet purposes) would now be on the inside. This is just something that owners like Rochester and I accepted (getting less miles out them) when buying these tires but I really don't care because these tires are worth it. 
I think the tires you and other people are thinking about are symmetrical, meaning they have the exact same design throughout the tread (which means they can be swapped and rotated).
Clear as mud everyone?

I think the tires you and other people are thinking about are symmetrical, meaning they have the exact same design throughout the tread (which means they can be swapped and rotated).
Clear as mud everyone?

Assymetirc tyres features and tread pattern design
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Here you go, please read when you can, it WILL clear up the mud 
Assymetirc tyres features and tread pattern design

Assymetirc tyres features and tread pattern design
He's all yours, Brad. You two have fun. 
I'm wanting Chris to tell me what's up with his coolant bin. Those braided lines are just about the most cool looking thing. I want that in my engine bay, and I don't even know what dfuq it is, LOL.

I'm wanting Chris to tell me what's up with his coolant bin. Those braided lines are just about the most cool looking thing. I want that in my engine bay, and I don't even know what dfuq it is, LOL.
I'm with you John, that looks really badass, not sure if its for looks or if it serves a purpose. Look good Chris, lol i still haven't had the time to install my R2C intakes yet. I am so sick of this cold weather, so looking forward to spring.
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Did you even look at the link I posted, it's pretty clear.
But in case you didn't
"Today most tread designs are either asymmetric or rotational. Assymmetric designs have a tread pattern where one half the (inner side) has a different tread design compared to the outer side. As shown in the picture to the left, the asymmetric tread design look like two different tyres joined in the middle. Asymmetric designs have become very common on wider sizes and many low profile sizes. There are many advantages to the asymmetric pattern. The performance is better especially grip on wet roads, because it has more grooves on the inner side it can disperse water better whilst at the same time the outer side has a greater contact on the road. An asymmetric pattern also performs very well in high speed cornering all because of a much plainer surface on the outer side.
Asymmetric tyres are non directional they can be placed on either side of the vehicle, left or right side. One thing to note is that it does have an inside and outside mounting point hence they have to mount the correct way by the fitter. The outside as shown on the tyre sidewall must always be facing outwards. Any tyre that has not been mounted correctly or changed is an MOT failure and is dangerous, it can seriously impair the performance of the car. You can rotate an Assymetric tyre without demounting it meaning you can take a tyre from the left and put it on the right side of the vehicle and vice verse. What you can’t do is change the inside to face the outside as mentioned above.
But in case you didn't
"Today most tread designs are either asymmetric or rotational. Assymmetric designs have a tread pattern where one half the (inner side) has a different tread design compared to the outer side. As shown in the picture to the left, the asymmetric tread design look like two different tyres joined in the middle. Asymmetric designs have become very common on wider sizes and many low profile sizes. There are many advantages to the asymmetric pattern. The performance is better especially grip on wet roads, because it has more grooves on the inner side it can disperse water better whilst at the same time the outer side has a greater contact on the road. An asymmetric pattern also performs very well in high speed cornering all because of a much plainer surface on the outer side.
Asymmetric tyres are non directional they can be placed on either side of the vehicle, left or right side. One thing to note is that it does have an inside and outside mounting point hence they have to mount the correct way by the fitter. The outside as shown on the tyre sidewall must always be facing outwards. Any tyre that has not been mounted correctly or changed is an MOT failure and is dangerous, it can seriously impair the performance of the car. You can rotate an Assymetric tyre without demounting it meaning you can take a tyre from the left and put it on the right side of the vehicle and vice verse. What you can’t do is change the inside to face the outside as mentioned above.
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Did you even look at the link I posted, it's pretty clear.
But in case you didn't
"Today most tread designs are either asymmetric or rotational. Assymmetric designs have a tread pattern where one half the (inner side) has a different tread design compared to the outer side. As shown in the picture to the left, the asymmetric tread design look like two different tyres joined in the middle. Asymmetric designs have become very common on wider sizes and many low profile sizes. There are many advantages to the asymmetric pattern. The performance is better especially grip on wet roads, because it has more grooves on the inner side it can disperse water better whilst at the same time the outer side has a greater contact on the road. An asymmetric pattern also performs very well in high speed cornering all because of a much plainer surface on the outer side.
Asymmetric tyres are non directional they can be placed on either side of the vehicle, left or right side. One thing to note is that it does have an inside and outside mounting point hence they have to mount the correct way by the fitter. The outside as shown on the tyre sidewall must always be facing outwards. Any tyre that has not been mounted correctly or changed is an MOT failure and is dangerous, it can seriously impair the performance of the car. You can rotate an Assymetric tyre without demounting it meaning you can take a tyre from the left and put it on the right side of the vehicle and vice verse. What you can’t do is change the inside to face the outside as mentioned above.
But in case you didn't
"Today most tread designs are either asymmetric or rotational. Assymmetric designs have a tread pattern where one half the (inner side) has a different tread design compared to the outer side. As shown in the picture to the left, the asymmetric tread design look like two different tyres joined in the middle. Asymmetric designs have become very common on wider sizes and many low profile sizes. There are many advantages to the asymmetric pattern. The performance is better especially grip on wet roads, because it has more grooves on the inner side it can disperse water better whilst at the same time the outer side has a greater contact on the road. An asymmetric pattern also performs very well in high speed cornering all because of a much plainer surface on the outer side.
Asymmetric tyres are non directional they can be placed on either side of the vehicle, left or right side. One thing to note is that it does have an inside and outside mounting point hence they have to mount the correct way by the fitter. The outside as shown on the tyre sidewall must always be facing outwards. Any tyre that has not been mounted correctly or changed is an MOT failure and is dangerous, it can seriously impair the performance of the car. You can rotate an Assymetric tyre without demounting it meaning you can take a tyre from the left and put it on the right side of the vehicle and vice verse. What you can’t do is change the inside to face the outside as mentioned above.
My argument is for and the one I'm asking you to debunk is when TAKING OFF THE WHOLE TIRE AND MOVING IT TO THE OTHER SIDE (on each axle, NOT FRONT TO BACK) it is not advisable concerning Michelin PSS because of the fact they have an outside and interior specific tread design. Sorry for the shouting and vulgarity but fking A, this madness has to stop!
Wow, of all people I thought you would have a better grasp on this but the fact that you don't makes me think I'm in a bizarro forum world. Seriously man, read what I typed (since you obviously are stating I didn't read your post but DID YOU READ MINE?). You are stating that that you can ROTATE asymmetrical tires and I've said the WHOLE FKING TIME you can obviously rotate them but IT MAKES NO FKING SENSE to rotate them because they will have the same wear pattern when staggered. I'll say it again though in case that wasn't clear, for the last time, I am not saying you cannot rotate asymmetrical tires because you most definitely can and I'VE NEVER STATED OTHERWISE!
My argument is for and the one I'm asking you to debunk is when TAKING OFF THE WHOLE TIRE AND MOVING IT TO THE OTHER SIDE (on each axle, NOT FRONT TO BACK) it is not advisable concerning Michelin PSS because of the fact they have an outside and interior specific tread design. Sorry for the shouting and vulgarity but fking A, this madness has to stop!
My argument is for and the one I'm asking you to debunk is when TAKING OFF THE WHOLE TIRE AND MOVING IT TO THE OTHER SIDE (on each axle, NOT FRONT TO BACK) it is not advisable concerning Michelin PSS because of the fact they have an outside and interior specific tread design. Sorry for the shouting and vulgarity but fking A, this madness has to stop!
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3878959
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3879252
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3879292
And yes, this madness has to stop. And FWIW I never stated that rotating side to side was worthwhile, at least not in this particular instance, just said it was "possible"
This is quite the hilarious discussion. If the asymmetrical tire is mounted properly (with the lettering that clearly says "outside" is mounted on the "out" side of the wheel) you can do a full 4 wheel rotation. Only exception is if you have a directional set of wheels that wouldn't look right if they were mounted on the wrong side of the car, or a staggered setup, (but you could still side to side rotate in that case).
But continue on....................
But continue on....................
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Well there's been a whole bunch of stuff along the way so lets just backtrack a bit and you'll see the posts I was referring to~
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3878959
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3879252
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3879292
And yes, this madness has to stop. And FWIW I never stated that rotating side to side was worthwhile, at least not in this particular instance.
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3878959
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3879252
https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post3879292
And yes, this madness has to stop. And FWIW I never stated that rotating side to side was worthwhile, at least not in this particular instance.








