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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 03:46 AM
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Hey, so long story (kinda)short, my daughters father and I bought a 2010 g37 sedan when we found out that I was pregnant. It supposedly was a very safe car and top of the line for everything. We are no longer together, but still are best friends and get along wonderfully. He kept the car when we broke up and I bought an Audi (for it's safety features as well). This past Sunday he was in a very bad accident. His tires spun out on the wet highway, he over corrected and was hit on the back right then spun out of control, hit by another car (not exactly sure where) and flipped 2-3 times into oncoming traffic. His airbags never deployed.. He is now in a coma and the doctors are giving him a 90% chance of staying in a vegetative state for the rest of his life or being severely disabled if he wakes up. He is only 25 years old. I feel like this is wrong. His airbags should have deployed and he shouldn't have gotten as injured as he is. I'm furious at Infiniti right now.. If anyone has had a similar problem or any advice on what to do, please PLEASE, help me! I'm at a loss of what to do. My daughter needs her father, or at least to be taken care of considering he will never work again. Something has to be done.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sydney319
Hey, so long story (kinda)short, my daughters father and I bought a 2010 g37 sedan when we found out that I was pregnant. It supposedly was a very safe car and top of the line for everything. We are no longer together, but still are best friends and get along wonderfully. He kept the car when we broke up and I bought an Audi (for it's safety features as well). This past Sunday he was in a very bad accident. His tires spun out on the wet highway, he over corrected and was hit on the back right then spun out of control, hit by another car (not exactly sure where) and flipped 2-3 times into oncoming traffic. His airbags never deployed.. He is now in a coma and the doctors are giving him a 90% chance of staying in a vegetative state for the rest of his life or being severely disabled if he wakes up. He is only 25 years old. I feel like this is wrong. His airbags should have deployed and he shouldn't have gotten as injured as he is. I'm furious at Infiniti right now.. If anyone has had a similar problem or any advice on what to do, please PLEASE, help me! I'm at a loss of what to do. My daughter needs her father, or at least to be taken care of considering he will never work again. Something has to be done.
Thank you, sorry for such a long post.
So sorry to hear of such a tragic accident, this is definitely something Infiniti corporate needs to be informed of and I'm sure you've already got an attorney. Hopefully they can steer you to the best course of action.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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Like stated above. Get a lawyer and have him get in touch with Infiniti HQ and see what happens. It defenetly needs some attention from them considering the thread below this one there is a one that got hit on the side and all airbags deployed.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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Hey, so long story (kinda)short, my daughters father and I bought a 2010 g37 sedan when we found out that I was pregnant. It supposedly was a very safe car and top of the line for everything. We are no longer together, but still are best friends and get along wonderfully. He kept the car when we broke up and I bought an Audi (for it's safety features as well). This past Sunday he was in a very bad accident. His tires spun out on the wet highway, he over corrected and was hit on the back right then spun out of control, hit by another car (not exactly sure where) and flipped 2-3 times into oncoming traffic. His airbags never deployed.. He is now in a coma and the doctors are giving him a 90% chance of staying in a vegetative state for the rest of his life or being severely disabled if he wakes up. He is only 25 years old. I feel like this is wrong. His airbags should have deployed and he shouldn't have gotten as injured as he is. I'm furious at Infiniti right now.. If anyone has had a similar problem or any advice on what to do, please PLEASE, help me! I'm at a loss of what to do. My daughter needs her father, or at least to be taken care of considering he will never work again. Something has to be done.
Thank you, sorry for such a long post.
I too had something similar happen I was doing 50-55 and I could feel the car bite into water and the back end slip and for the most part I could handle it then it bit hard and the car just turned my AWD didn't help and I spun into a guard rail hitting both the front and rear and the airbags never deployed. I think they might have faulty sensors. if you do more then 10k in damage tot he car you think the bags would deploy....
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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First off I am sorry and i hope he wakes up. Second you need a mechanic and then a lawyer in that order. You have to figure out a few things. Was the car in a accident before where it went to a shop. Air bag theft is a big problem. Also there are some Chinese companies that make counterfeit airbags. The g37 has a few airbags. The front airbags deploy in a frontal crash and should not deploy in a rear-end crash. The front airbag is deployed when a sensor determines the direction and power of the impact crosses the threshold. The other issue is a air bag is made to inflate and deflate quickly so in a roll situation it would not help. If the curtain airbags didn't inflate that's where your lawsuit is at. That of course only works if it is the factory bag and was not stolen. I wish you the best and please keep us informed on what you find. Also if your airbag was stolen list the shops you visited for work so we can warn others.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that this happened, but at this at this point a good lawyer will be more helpful to you than any advice that the forum can provide.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sydney319
His airbags never deployed.. He is now in a coma and the doctors are giving him a 90% chance of staying in a vegetative state for the rest of his life or being severely disabled if he wakes up. He is only 25 years old. I feel like this is wrong. His airbags should have deployed and he shouldn't have gotten as injured as he is. I'm furious at Infiniti right now.. If anyone has had a similar problem or any advice on what to do, please PLEASE, help me! I'm at a loss of what to do. My daughter needs her father, or at least to be taken care of considering he will never work again. Something has to be done.
Thank you, sorry for such a long post.
Firstly, sorry for your ex's misfortune and I hope he makes a full recovery to health and vitality. That being said, you really need to have a complete crash recreation by a professional to be able to know if the airbags were even supposed to deploy. They do not deploy in all crashes, even some very severe ones. They aren't meant to in all cases. Airbags are a secondary restraint system. It's entirely possible that they wouldn't have prevented the injuries, and in some cases exacerbate injuries. That's one reason why they don't deploy in every crash.

Take this the right way, but you have no clue whether the airbags should have deployed or not. Or if they would have made things better or worse. Unless you know exactly what happened in the crash and the physics behind it, you can't know whether the airbags should have deployed or not. I deal with this for a living as a part of my job and I can't tell you form your vague description of events.

The worst possible thing you can do is rely on the members of this forum for advice on this issue. The vast majority here are completely ignorant of what should or shouldn't happen with airbags in a crash because they aren't professionals in this field, just regular people who happen drive Infiniti's just like your ex. You've already gotten bad advice in the replies to this thread advice so don't rely on it.

What you need is a professional. Your attorney should be able to put you in touch with a competent accident reconstructionist. That's the only person who will have the expertise to determine if they should or shouldn't have deployed. You will want to retain the very best available becasue Infiniti engineers will be in a position of authority to say definitively what did/didn't and should/shouldn't have happened in the crash. Best of luck.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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It's a tragic event and wishing you all the best.

As stated above, there should be some follow up, as nobody on this forum can say with authority without physical access, what or what not should have occured with the air bags.
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Old Aug 22, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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I really can't contribute much as far as what to do next, as I've never encountered this situation, but I'm glad everyone else seems to be pointing you in the right direction. I hope this gets positively resolved for you and I'm sending you all the best.
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 09:32 AM
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Thank you all for your replies, I know that there is a lot more to be done and a lawyer will be able to help with it. I was mainly just wondering if anyone else had had a similar problem, because I can't find any other stories that are even close to his online. I saw that there was a recall on the passenger airbag, which makes sense because I remember it did not always process that I was sitting in the seat and would say that it was off. We used to laugh about it saying I was too tiny for the front seat now it's haunting me a bit that we never got it looked at..
One other thing that I've noticed and looked into is he doesn't have any bruises, scratches or anything from the seatbelt, but the 1st responders said that he was wearing it and cut it off of him, so the only logical explanation is it never locked. Which is another problem I will have to bring up to a lawyer.

Thank you all again for your responses and advices I really do appreciate it!
The doctor has diagnosed him with Severe DAI. It's caused by rapid acceleration and deceleration along with a rotational force. The spinning and flipping is what caused the worst damage.
He made a couple small improvements yesterday though, so we're staying hopeful!

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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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KERAXIS: we bought the car brand new from the dealership, it had never been in an accident and was never taken anywhere except the dealership, so I highly doubt that stolen airbags would have been a problem. And I just really believe that where he was hit and how hard he was hit (twice before he rolled) that SOME airbag should have been deployed. Thank you for your response!
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sydney319
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KERAXIS: we bought the car brand new from the dealership, it had never been in an accident and was never taken anywhere except the dealership, so I highly doubt that stolen airbags would have been a problem. And I just really believe that where he was hit and how hard he was hit (twice before he rolled) that SOME airbag should have been deployed. Thank you for your response!
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Sorry to hear what happened.
I had an air bag warning light problem on my 06 G35 that I traded in last Aug 31st. After five trips to the dealer the entire wiring harness was replaced which finally resolved the problem.

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I hope everything will be okay.

However, that being said, there are too many variables which may cause airbags to not deploy. Accident conditions may not have caused airbags to deploy, but I'm sure a rollover should cause at least side curtain airbags to deploy.

If the car was bought new and never been in an accident, then Infiniti may be liable for this. However, you still need to contact a professional to determine liability.

Also, it may be likely that Infiniti would claim that even if airbags deployed, the car got hit an additional couple of times that may cause his injuries, and downplay the whole scenario. Also to add insult to injury, he was the one who caused the accident since he was the one who lost control of his vehicle. His insurance is probably also liable for everyone else's health and property damage.

This may all sound harsh, but I really hope your family will be okay. To minimize risk of losing control, make sure the tires are properly inflated/have enough tread for safe driving.

As for Audi being safe (assuming you have A4, since they are Audi's most popular model,) they were rated "Poor" for small overlap test while Infiniti has "Acceptable."


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I hope everything will be okay.

However, that being said, there are too many variables which may cause airbags to not deploy. Accident conditions may not have caused airbags to deploy, but I'm sure a rollover should cause at least side curtain airbags to deploy.

If the car was bought new and never been in an accident, then Infiniti may be liable for this. However, you still need to contact a professional to determine liability.

Also, it may be likely that Infiniti would claim that even if airbags deployed, the car got hit an additional couple of times that may cause his injuries, and downplay the whole scenario. Also to add insult to injury, he was the one who caused the accident since he was the one who lost control of his vehicle. His insurance is probably also liable for everyone else's health and property damage.

This may all sound harsh, but I really hope your family will be okay. To minimize risk of losing control, make sure the tires are properly inflated/have enough tread for safe driving.

As for Audi being safe (assuming you have A4, since they are Audi's most popular model,) they were rated "Poor" for small overlap test while Infiniti has "Acceptable."

I know there are a lot of variables that go into whether or not the airbags will deploy or not, but considering he was hit twice in two different places and then rolled, I feel like at least one of those hits should have deployed an airbag..

Yes, it was bought brand new and never in an accident, not even a bump. He babied that car more than me lol.

The whole crash is still under investigation because the reason he sped up so quickly was the car he was merging in front of was speeding and (we're assuming) he didn't realize how fast it was going until he was already merging in front of him, so he had to speed up to (ironically) avoid getting hit. I'm not sure who they are labeling at fault, which is just a mess anyways. It was a little of everyone's fault. She shouldn't have been speeding so much in the far right lane with merging traffic coming in, he should have looked twice and paid a little more attention I'm sure, but the main problem was rain. If the roads were not wet, he wouldn't have lost control. He had new tires, he always kept up with all of that. Our 2 1/2 year old daughter was in that car every week, he made sure it was always safe for her.

Yes, I have an A4 2.0 turbo, I did a lot of research and I'm pretty confident with it considering I've been in an accident with it already (another car caused me to swerve and I couldn't brake and swerve in time and hit a guard rail going about 60 on the front passenger side. It sounds bad, but if I wouldn't have swerved it would have been a head on collision with a car drifting into my lane) and my airbags never deployed either, but they didn't need to, I had two other people in my car and we were all perfectly fine. It was decent damage, but we all walked say just a little sore. I have my Audi back now and feel perfectly safe in it.

Thank you for your lengthy response and videos as well, I do appreciate it! I just wish I could see an exact reenactment of his accident..
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