MT article - Q/G by the numbers..
08-05-2013, 09:38 AM
#31
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We both made our choices: you chose AWD, and I chose better handling, braking and steering. However, neither of us can blame Infiniti for not getting everything we wanted. When something doesn't smell right, you don't blame the wind.
08-05-2013, 01:09 PM
#35
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Here's a link to todays autoblog article:
2014 Infiniti Q50 First Drive - Autoblog
In the process of reading right now
2014 Infiniti Q50 First Drive - Autoblog
In the process of reading right now
08-05-2013, 07:28 PM
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08-05-2013, 07:32 PM
#37
Or rather, Infiniti shouldnt force those that want those things into buying RWD only. I mean look at Porsche: the most powerful 911 you can get is AWD only. Isnt Nissans own GT-R AWD only?
Granted, the brakes on my AWD sedan are just fine. I suppose if I were tracking it that might be a different story.
Suspension can be fixed with $$$. Really the only thing on that list you CANT fix is the steering, and that might be do-able (Ive never looked into it)
Granted, the brakes on my AWD sedan are just fine. I suppose if I were tracking it that might be a different story.
Suspension can be fixed with $$$. Really the only thing on that list you CANT fix is the steering, and that might be do-able (Ive never looked into it)
08-06-2013, 07:56 AM
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08-06-2013, 08:03 AM
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Today we have fully electronic throttles, traction control, anti-lock brakes, and continuously variable transmissions. So it seems that drive-by-wire steering plays in that same wheelhouse.
I agree, it doesn't sound like something that you would pay extra for on a Sport Package. But then, I don't think Infiniti cares anymore about the phrase "Sport Package". That's clearly not a priority for the new, reinvented Infiniti brand.
I agree, it doesn't sound like something that you would pay extra for on a Sport Package. But then, I don't think Infiniti cares anymore about the phrase "Sport Package". That's clearly not a priority for the new, reinvented Infiniti brand.
08-06-2013, 08:54 AM
#41
Its not that .2 s is meaningful...its that 0% of the update was aimed at improving the dynamics of the car. I could care less about the styling (man, you millennials are obsessed over image). The hybrid is way too much more money with very little performance increase, and everything seems to indicate that the chassis dynamics are about the same. Of course, every other competitor is basically doing the same thing. Again, they are chasing the market, and the market cares more about fluffy image crap than performance. Sad time to be a car guy.
08-06-2013, 09:04 AM
#42
Its not that .2 s is meaningful...its that 0% of the update was aimed at improving the dynamics of the car. I could care less about the styling (man, you millennials are obsessed over image). The hybrid is way too much more money with very little performance increase, and everything seems to indicate that the chassis dynamics are about the same. Of course, every other competitor is basically doing the same thing. Again, they are chasing the market, and the market cares more about fluffy image crap than performance. Sad time to be a car guy.
Hopefully they dont ditch RWD/RWD-biased-AWD altogether! Then they might as well just be an expensive version of Nissan everything.
08-06-2013, 10:18 AM
#43
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Its ashame, just as Infiniti starts to talk about "Inspired Performance" we seemingly get the exact opposite (starting with the JX, really)
Hopefully they dont ditch RWD/RWD-biased-AWD altogether! Then they might as well just be an expensive version of Nissan everything.
Hopefully they dont ditch RWD/RWD-biased-AWD altogether! Then they might as well just be an expensive version of Nissan everything.
Frankly, I think they are in a great position, but again, the market will let em know how they did. Infiniti won't get their answer from this thread.
08-06-2013, 10:40 AM
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Aw-w-w. 
You're right, of course. The (growing majority) demographic in this forum is not the target market for Infiniti any longer. And as the G37 gets older, and Infiniti continues to evolve, that gap will only get wider.
You're right, of course. The (growing majority) demographic in this forum is not the target market for Infiniti any longer. And as the G37 gets older, and Infiniti continues to evolve, that gap will only get wider.
08-06-2013, 10:42 AM
#45
I think demographic/sales wise this is a good move for them, but driving experience wise I think its a letdown for forums like this. I know I bought my G (even if it WAS just AWD
) for the sportiness of it. Looking back, driving the i30 it replaced in my garage, I could never go back to the more luxurious i30. I think the Q50 is attempting to strike the middle ground between the G and my old i, and it very well might work out since Im guessing most people who bought a G did so for reasons NOT being performance.
I *do* question the producing-alongside tactic, since I think either one will take away from sales of the other. I could see if they had leftover G37's to get rid of, but actually producing them alongside makes it seem like thats not the case (unless they have a ton of leftover parts?) But its definitely a great time to buy a G, even if it lacks the sport package. $32K for a base RWD? With the nav and premium packages Im guessing around $35K? Thats a damn good deal if you ask me (my BIL just paid $30K for a Maxima...$5K difference for a completely different driving experience would be a no brainer to me)