MT article - Q/G by the numbers..
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Euro car fans willing to pay thru the nose for much slower car, rave about it then quietly trade it in after 4 year.
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.2 second faster or slower means little. It is a mistake to judge a car by a mere .2 sec difference in acceleration, because that is only one small aspect of the car.
Euro car fans willing to pay thru the nose for much slower car, rave about it then quietly trade it in after 4 year.
Euro car fans willing to pay thru the nose for much slower car, rave about it then quietly trade it in after 4 year.
I have a G, as well as a slower Euro car. And I do rave about the slower Euro car and love it more. However, I won't be secretly trading it in after 4 yrs.
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Again, that apologetic attitude is the one which allows a company like Infiniti to offer a car more tailored to the female buyer now.
That .2 seconds means "diddly squat"? Seriously? It sure means a great deal to those of us who price performance over looks. But like I said, a fair majority of the posters here are more into the rims, stance, and plasti-dip thing. And don't get me wrong, I like a nice-looking car. But not one which trades progress for window-dressing. There will always be a divide between those of us who prize substance over style, and the reverse.
That .2 seconds means "diddly squat"? Seriously? It sure means a great deal to those of us who price performance over looks. But like I said, a fair majority of the posters here are more into the rims, stance, and plasti-dip thing. And don't get me wrong, I like a nice-looking car. But not one which trades progress for window-dressing. There will always be a divide between those of us who prize substance over style, and the reverse.
You may not agree the silly(imo) .2, but it's not about that and imo never was. It's about the new powertrains coming down the pike starting with the hybrid available immediately.
So they took the G and gave it a ton of window dressing technology. It's clearly not meant to be all things to all people.
Shaving a second off the G is going to be the business of IPL; when Infiniti decides to release it. The Q50 isn't getting any faster.
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Nope, I would be saying the same thing. I do not believe any 0-60 in the mags.
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I love my G37xS 2011. That said. I would love a dual clutch tranny.....better brakes..better suspension and more power ... a quicker steering ratio....and a real premium stereo system not the fashion statement of Bose emblems..that farts and rattles my dash. I do also agree that for the money it's a great car but they could do better and I would pay a little more if they did. Isn't the point to improve the car every year so we want to buy a new one? In any case those improvements would make me buy a new G or H or whatever they want to call it. and ..on my wish list adjustable suspension height and damping ...from the interior.
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I love my G37xS 2011. That said. I would love a dual clutch tranny.....better brakes..better suspension and more power ... a quicker steering ratio....and a real premium stereo system not the fashion statement of Bose emblems..that farts and rattles my dash. I do also agree that for the money it's a great car but they could do better and I would pay a little more if they did. Isn't the point to improve the car every year so we want to buy a new one? In any case those improvements would make me buy a new G or H or whatever they want to call it. and ..on my wish list adjustable suspension height and damping ...from the interior.
But you probably already know that.
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It appears that the is350 has won the JDM Bimmer substitute dynamically , at least . Neither will get my money without a 6 MT . Not all interested in hybrid power trains either. I don't get caught up so much in a few tenths to 60, but I think they should've left the chassis alone and added 2.0t DI turbo with 6 mt to meet their mpg goals.
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Granted, the brakes on my AWD sedan are just fine. I suppose if I were tracking it that might be a different story.
Suspension can be fixed with $$$. Really the only thing on that list you CANT fix is the steering, and that might be do-able (Ive never looked into it)
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My point is, you can't blame the manufacturer for not building the car that you didn't buy.
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Anyone that wants an AWD sedan is "not allowed" (better term?) to get the improved brakes, suspension, etc.
I could see if there were technical reasons behind it, but my understanding is that at least some of the available wheels (even on AWD) can fit the bigger brakes. Im not sure how different the coupe/RWD steering really is...maybe just a different gearing? Suspension *maybe* an issue with the AWD stuff in the way but Im sure they could have worked around it.
Maybe their demographic studies showed that AWD owners dont want that stuff. I personally would like both, but thats just me. I can always add it all myself if I REALLY want it.
And "not building the car I didnt buy", well, again, if they offered this stuff at all on an AWD sedan, I would have most likely paid for it. So I can at least blame them for not building the car I would pay for
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It appears that the is350 has won the JDM Bimmer substitute dynamically , at least . Neither will get my money without a 6 MT . Not all interested in hybrid power trains either. I don't get caught up so much in a few tenths to 60, but I think they should've left the chassis alone and added 2.0t DI turbo with 6 mt to meet their mpg goals.