2012 infiniti g37 sedan Sport vs. Non-Sports? I need some recommendation...
03-06-2013, 10:24 PM
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I have a '10 sport and don't find the ride bad at all. I was a little worried cause the car rags don't like it, but they are the same waterheads that think cars with price tags 30% apart are comparable.
For reference, our 2007 RDX has a stiffer ride (another vehicle known for a rough ride).
Here in DFW its all about the concrete expansion joints, which are rougher in the winter.
For reference, our 2007 RDX has a stiffer ride (another vehicle known for a rough ride).
Here in DFW its all about the concrete expansion joints, which are rougher in the winter.
03-07-2013, 07:51 AM
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If I were to do it over again, I would NOT get the Sport
I have owned a 2011G37xS for 2.5 years now. I live in the northeast. I'm a 41yo male of average height and weight. Every time I get a loaner (always a G37x non-S from my dealer) I am pleasantly surprised with how well behaved and balanced it is compared to my xS.
As others have stated, the Sport seats are quite different with really tall side bolsters on the bottom cushion. I have a 34" waist and I find them too tight/constraining most of the time. The regular seats are probably a little too flat/soft but they are better than the sports seats 90% of the time as you only need the huge side bolsters for those off ramp dives at 30MPH over and back road shenanigans. The rest of the time they definitely make themselves known and not in a good way.
I also find the xS to be noticeably more twitchy when driving. Not sure if its the wheels/tires, steering or a combination of things, but I find the non-S to be less spastic when I really get on it. The xS seems to make a lot of drama out of hard acceleration and fast cornering and its not clear to me that it is any faster or handles significantly better than the non-S.
Maybe I'm just not getting it, but every time I get into a 3-series, I'm reminded of what a world class car is supposed to handle like. My xS is definitely not that but I bought it because it was ~$15K cheaper than the equivalent BMW and doesn't require bi-weekly trips to the dealer so I shouldn't complain.
If I end up getting another G, I will definitely think twice (and drive with S and without it) before pulling the trigger. Feels like more of a marketing feature than an engineering one to me, and I'm someone who has been driving one for almost three years now. My advice; keep the money in your pocket and add your own sport features if you are so inclined. Wheels, tires, sway bar...just be sure to sit on those sport seats first. Chances are you won't like them...
As others have stated, the Sport seats are quite different with really tall side bolsters on the bottom cushion. I have a 34" waist and I find them too tight/constraining most of the time. The regular seats are probably a little too flat/soft but they are better than the sports seats 90% of the time as you only need the huge side bolsters for those off ramp dives at 30MPH over and back road shenanigans. The rest of the time they definitely make themselves known and not in a good way.
I also find the xS to be noticeably more twitchy when driving. Not sure if its the wheels/tires, steering or a combination of things, but I find the non-S to be less spastic when I really get on it. The xS seems to make a lot of drama out of hard acceleration and fast cornering and its not clear to me that it is any faster or handles significantly better than the non-S.
Maybe I'm just not getting it, but every time I get into a 3-series, I'm reminded of what a world class car is supposed to handle like. My xS is definitely not that but I bought it because it was ~$15K cheaper than the equivalent BMW and doesn't require bi-weekly trips to the dealer so I shouldn't complain.
If I end up getting another G, I will definitely think twice (and drive with S and without it) before pulling the trigger. Feels like more of a marketing feature than an engineering one to me, and I'm someone who has been driving one for almost three years now. My advice; keep the money in your pocket and add your own sport features if you are so inclined. Wheels, tires, sway bar...just be sure to sit on those sport seats first. Chances are you won't like them...
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03-30-2013, 05:58 PM
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^^ I think infiniti really dropped the ball on the sedan xS. It's not even remotely close to the coupe xS. Most of the fun bits that make the S what it is are missing from the sedan, but present in the coupe.
The twitchy is likely the all season tires. I have the regular S sedan (rwd only). After changing the sways to dial in a little less body roll, I find the car handles quite well in the corners. Set the turn in, dial in some maintenance throttle throttle through the corner, then hammer out past the apex.
One of the salesfolk I dealt with had a xS sedan on the lot. I test drove it, but didn't think much of it. He told me it was identical to the S but awd. Pulled up both cars on the screen once home and compared the specs.
Main differences include (for the sedan)
* 18 x 7.5" wheels with 225/50/18 on all corners on the xS
18x 7.5" wheels w/ 225/50/18 front and 18 x 8.5" wheels w/ 245/45/18 on the rear for the S
* S has sport tuned suspension, xS does not
* S has a smaller ratio steering (quicker steering response), xS does not
* S has VLSD rear end (not the best, but better than open rear end), xS does not
* S has BBK brakes, xS does not
I think that covers all the major mechanical differences. So as you can see, other than the S badging and 18" wheels, the awd S sedan is nearly identical to the non S sedan.
I'm slightly wider in the waist area and have no problems with the seat bolsters. For 95% of the driving, I leave them mostly deflated. Could also be the seating position - for the MT I have to keep the seat a bit closer so I can reach the clutch properly. If I were driving an auto I'd have the seat slightly more back.
IMO, while the G doesn't excel, it does a pretty good job in most categories for the price point.
The twitchy is likely the all season tires. I have the regular S sedan (rwd only). After changing the sways to dial in a little less body roll, I find the car handles quite well in the corners. Set the turn in, dial in some maintenance throttle throttle through the corner, then hammer out past the apex.
One of the salesfolk I dealt with had a xS sedan on the lot. I test drove it, but didn't think much of it. He told me it was identical to the S but awd. Pulled up both cars on the screen once home and compared the specs.
Main differences include (for the sedan)
* 18 x 7.5" wheels with 225/50/18 on all corners on the xS
18x 7.5" wheels w/ 225/50/18 front and 18 x 8.5" wheels w/ 245/45/18 on the rear for the S
* S has sport tuned suspension, xS does not
* S has a smaller ratio steering (quicker steering response), xS does not
* S has VLSD rear end (not the best, but better than open rear end), xS does not
* S has BBK brakes, xS does not
I think that covers all the major mechanical differences. So as you can see, other than the S badging and 18" wheels, the awd S sedan is nearly identical to the non S sedan.
I'm slightly wider in the waist area and have no problems with the seat bolsters. For 95% of the driving, I leave them mostly deflated. Could also be the seating position - for the MT I have to keep the seat a bit closer so I can reach the clutch properly. If I were driving an auto I'd have the seat slightly more back.
IMO, while the G doesn't excel, it does a pretty good job in most categories for the price point.
05-05-2016, 08:08 PM
#81
I'm having a hard time finding out what "sport tuned" is precisely as far as the difference in shocks/struts and springs on the S sedan vs the XS Sedan?
^^ I think infiniti really dropped the ball on the sedan xS. It's not even remotely close to the coupe xS. Most of the fun bits that make the S what it is are missing from the sedan, but present in the coupe.
The twitchy is likely the all season tires. I have the regular S sedan (rwd only). After changing the sways to dial in a little less body roll, I find the car handles quite well in the corners. Set the turn in, dial in some maintenance throttle throttle through the corner, then hammer out past the apex.
One of the salesfolk I dealt with had a xS sedan on the lot. I test drove it, but didn't think much of it. He told me it was identical to the S but awd. Pulled up both cars on the screen once home and compared the specs.
Main differences include (for the sedan)
* 18 x 7.5" wheels with 225/50/18 on all corners on the xS
18x 7.5" wheels w/ 225/50/18 front and 18 x 8.5" wheels w/ 245/45/18 on the rear for the S
* S has sport tuned suspension, xS does not
* S has a smaller ratio steering (quicker steering response), xS does not
* S has VLSD rear end (not the best, but better than open rear end), xS does not
* S has BBK brakes, xS does not
I think that covers all the major mechanical differences. So as you can see, other than the S badging and 18" wheels, the awd S sedan is nearly identical to the non S sedan.
I'm slightly wider in the waist area and have no problems with the seat bolsters. For 95% of the driving, I leave them mostly deflated. Could also be the seating position - for the MT I have to keep the seat a bit closer so I can reach the clutch properly. If I were driving an auto I'd have the seat slightly more back.
IMO, while the G doesn't excel, it does a pretty good job in most categories for the price point.
The twitchy is likely the all season tires. I have the regular S sedan (rwd only). After changing the sways to dial in a little less body roll, I find the car handles quite well in the corners. Set the turn in, dial in some maintenance throttle throttle through the corner, then hammer out past the apex.
One of the salesfolk I dealt with had a xS sedan on the lot. I test drove it, but didn't think much of it. He told me it was identical to the S but awd. Pulled up both cars on the screen once home and compared the specs.
Main differences include (for the sedan)
* 18 x 7.5" wheels with 225/50/18 on all corners on the xS
18x 7.5" wheels w/ 225/50/18 front and 18 x 8.5" wheels w/ 245/45/18 on the rear for the S
* S has sport tuned suspension, xS does not
* S has a smaller ratio steering (quicker steering response), xS does not
* S has VLSD rear end (not the best, but better than open rear end), xS does not
* S has BBK brakes, xS does not
I think that covers all the major mechanical differences. So as you can see, other than the S badging and 18" wheels, the awd S sedan is nearly identical to the non S sedan.
I'm slightly wider in the waist area and have no problems with the seat bolsters. For 95% of the driving, I leave them mostly deflated. Could also be the seating position - for the MT I have to keep the seat a bit closer so I can reach the clutch properly. If I were driving an auto I'd have the seat slightly more back.
IMO, while the G doesn't excel, it does a pretty good job in most categories for the price point.
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