Why Does G37 lose so much?
09-06-2010, 03:09 PM
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why are the g37s faster than the automatics? is it because of the weight of the tranny? I was under the impression the 7at could switch gears much faster than a human driver hence making it faster than a manual. i guess that's only the case with vw's DSG.
and why is the g37 so heavy? what does it matter if it's a lux car that it has to be inherently heavier, the 335i is a lux car but it's faster and lighter and much more refined. why is the coupe heavier than a sedan? I thought the coupe was smaller and lighter weight.. go figure.
the g37 really needs to have at least 300 ft lbs to be more competitive. I don't know what they were thinking giving it only 270 TQ
and why is the g37 so heavy? what does it matter if it's a lux car that it has to be inherently heavier, the 335i is a lux car but it's faster and lighter and much more refined. why is the coupe heavier than a sedan? I thought the coupe was smaller and lighter weight.. go figure.
the g37 really needs to have at least 300 ft lbs to be more competitive. I don't know what they were thinking giving it only 270 TQ
I've heard the autos are a bit quicker than the 6mt but not sure
09-06-2010, 03:22 PM
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What about reliability or durability of the LSD vs the regular differential?
also does the LSD make a noticeable difference in the feel of the driving or is it really not a big deal?
how does the LSD compare to the VLSD?
also does the LSD make a noticeable difference in the feel of the driving or is it really not a big deal?
how does the LSD compare to the VLSD?
09-07-2010, 11:03 AM
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Clax - this is not true. FIrst of all, I race people all the time in my G, with just a tune, and I win all the time against older mustangs, hemi charger R/Ts, I can beat just about any other six out there other than a good IS350 driver or a 335i. There are also lots of 8-cyl folks that are not as quick as they think they are. I do a 5.1 0-60 with my tune, otherwise stock. Just last week I beat the crap out of a mustang GT form the early 2000's, came from behind and beat him, and he had a look of 'no this can't be true at all' on his backward'd cap wearin' meth face.
But I digress - there are all kinds of confounds when watching these vids - coupe or sedan G37? Sedan is faster, sometimes remarkably so. MT had a stock G37S at 5 flat. Coupe is bigger and heavier. A fatty, so to speak. they are all in the 5.4-5.6 range it seems, tops.
Also, the other cars in the video may (and probably) have all sorts of modifications, from tunes to bolt-ons to turbos, nitrous and superchargers. Probably lots of dry nitrous shots goin on up in that you tube mess.
G37 owners tend to not drag their cars or modify them very much. It's a different demographic with different wants and needs, so you are going to see supercharged or nitroused G's a lot less then say, an older mustang, F-body pontiac or WRX. So it's not fair to just look at you tube videos and say 'G37's keep getting beat'
All that being said, the G is falling behind in the engine / tranny wars. The G needs direct injection or a turbo, or, most likely, a completely redesigned engine. G needs 30-40 lbs more torque down low and overall, and needs a few more ponies, say up 350 - 360, to keep it competitive. The G needs 13.5-13.2 1/4 mile times and stock sub-5 0-60's. And a hell of a lot better transmission tune. Most other things are good. But it needs a new drivetrain. Shouldn't have to go TT or SC to be competitive with other cars in its class. And a real, mechanical LSD in ALL models. Not the VLSD crap. That would make the 335i crowd very jealous.
Sorry. Conflated a wish list with defense of my G37.
But I digress - there are all kinds of confounds when watching these vids - coupe or sedan G37? Sedan is faster, sometimes remarkably so. MT had a stock G37S at 5 flat. Coupe is bigger and heavier. A fatty, so to speak. they are all in the 5.4-5.6 range it seems, tops.
Also, the other cars in the video may (and probably) have all sorts of modifications, from tunes to bolt-ons to turbos, nitrous and superchargers. Probably lots of dry nitrous shots goin on up in that you tube mess.
G37 owners tend to not drag their cars or modify them very much. It's a different demographic with different wants and needs, so you are going to see supercharged or nitroused G's a lot less then say, an older mustang, F-body pontiac or WRX. So it's not fair to just look at you tube videos and say 'G37's keep getting beat'
All that being said, the G is falling behind in the engine / tranny wars. The G needs direct injection or a turbo, or, most likely, a completely redesigned engine. G needs 30-40 lbs more torque down low and overall, and needs a few more ponies, say up 350 - 360, to keep it competitive. The G needs 13.5-13.2 1/4 mile times and stock sub-5 0-60's. And a hell of a lot better transmission tune. Most other things are good. But it needs a new drivetrain. Shouldn't have to go TT or SC to be competitive with other cars in its class. And a real, mechanical LSD in ALL models. Not the VLSD crap. That would make the 335i crowd very jealous.
Sorry. Conflated a wish list with defense of my G37.
11-02-2010, 01:45 AM
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With my G37 I feel like the king of road. Any kind of car that wanted to race me had a suprise of how fast the G is. I've raced mustangs to SRT4 and SRT8 and camaro. All of them had to put on their suprise hat on cuz I smoked them.
This obviously is on streets not drag racing
This obviously is on streets not drag racing
11-02-2010, 03:09 AM
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I have a Hypertech canned tune and the 18 inch sport wheels with Potenza 960AS tires. Ran a 5.18 last night and a 13.64 1/4 @ 104 mph. - that's it - meatier tires and a canned tune. You get 10lbs of extra torque down low woth hypertech, where it can be used by your higher ratio low gears to get you going....+6 hp. I can really feel the diff.
11-02-2010, 05:16 AM
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Also people like me Super charged do not go to the track cause we like to show our cars and not break them. I can not afford to break little things on the car every week and go without my daily driver. I bought this car to drive it not race it. But when im on the street, do not pull up to me and be stupid.
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