G37 Coupe

Dash illumination

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 13, 2021 | 10:10 PM
  #1  
daconic's Avatar
daconic
Thread Starter
Registered Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Dash illumination

When I leave my lights on auto when the xenons turn on in darker light situations, the dash board stays illuminated nicely. When I turn the xenons on manually (last setting on the light stalk) the dashboard dims itself - very dim. This is with the dashboard illumination (left of the wheel on dash) on max.

Can I manually turn on my xenons, while having the "brighter" dash illumination from the drl/running lights setting? I'm assuming it's a night/day dash setting, but it never goes as dark on auto light settings as it does when I do it manually.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2021 | 10:17 PM
  #2  
sobeIPL's Avatar
sobeIPL
Registered Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 622
Likes: 105
From: Miami
Ya know, this irritates me too. Hopefully someone has a solution.

The worst is when it rains lightly in the day time and you flick your lights on and you can’t see your gauges well.
Reply
Old Jul 13, 2021 | 10:19 PM
  #3  
sobeIPL's Avatar
sobeIPL
Registered Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 622
Likes: 105
From: Miami
Maybe if we put tape over the light sensors? I think they are in the defroster vents 🤔
Reply
Old Jul 14, 2021 | 10:38 AM
  #4  
ILM-NC G37S's Avatar
ILM-NC G37S
Registered Member
10 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 1,616
From: NC
I am not 100% sure I am following what the issue is, but being that the OP has a Canadian car I am sure it has something to do with the DRL system.

At night (completely dark), with the switch on AUTO, PARKING LAMPS, or HEADLAMPS, all of your exterior lights should be ON, your interior illuminations turn ON, and the cluster dims.

Is this not the case?

Originally Posted by sobeIPL
Maybe if we put tape over the light sensors? 🤔
Silly guy 😁. Covering the light sensor will have the car thinking it is always​ dark outside - the lights would be ON anytime the car is running.
Reply
Old Jul 14, 2021 | 11:34 AM
  #5  
sobeIPL's Avatar
sobeIPL
Registered Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 622
Likes: 105
From: Miami
The issue is when your lights are on and it dims the gauges during the day. We want full illumination when it’s day time even when lights are on.

And yea, my idea of blocking seems like the opposite of what we want to accomplish, lol.
Reply
Old Jul 14, 2021 | 12:14 PM
  #6  
ILM-NC G37S's Avatar
ILM-NC G37S
Registered Member
10 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 1,616
From: NC
Gotcha.
Well, the bad news is that, as far as I can tell, the cluster switching between daytime and "nighttime" modes is handled through the CANBUS and COM lines (via BCM, IPDM, and AC amp) . There is no way to disable that "toggle" that I know of.

But, like that damn TPMS idiot light, I love a challenge... I'll keep searching.
Reply
Old Jul 14, 2021 | 02:32 PM
  #7  
sobeIPL's Avatar
sobeIPL
Registered Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 622
Likes: 105
From: Miami
We can’t be alone tho right? Anyone ever flicked on your lights when it rains during the day, but it’s still sunny (sun shower) and you can’t see your cluster?

I am surprised this hasn’t been discussed before as it really is a legit issue.

Another indirect effect (which I think is why OP posted) is your cluster will be dim if you do some retrofit lights and want them on during the day.
Reply
Old Jul 14, 2021 | 02:47 PM
  #8  
ILM-NC G37S's Avatar
ILM-NC G37S
Registered Member
10 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 1,616
From: NC
Originally Posted by sobeIPL
We can’t be alone tho right? Anyone ever flicked on your lights when it rains during the day, but it’s still sunny (sun shower) and you can’t see your cluster?
No, I agree totally. I just don't know how to override the toggle. I am sure there is way...

Maybe someone who knows the CANBUS / AVCOM systems better can investigate... (?)...

Last edited by ILM-NC G37S; Jul 14, 2021 at 03:48 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2021 | 07:51 PM
  #9  
sobeIPL's Avatar
sobeIPL
Registered Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 622
Likes: 105
From: Miami
I may have stumbled on something indirectly. What bulb is behind the scenes of the gauges? If it’s like a regular 168/194 type bulb, what if we replaced it with an led which can’t dim? Heard people complaining about using LEDs for some applications and losing ability to dim. I dunno. Worth mentioning but I rarely have good ideas so this is likely no different, lol.
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2021 | 12:40 PM
  #10  
ILM-NC G37S's Avatar
ILM-NC G37S
Registered Member
10 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 1,616
From: NC
All of the "bulbs" in the gauge cluster are LED's. The problem is two-fold:

1st- we would have to locate the CAN signal from the BCM (via AC amp (AVCOM/Meter-Amp) and find a way to disable that trigger, and at the same time
2nd- while disabling that dimming trigger, find a way to turn on the interior illuminations when the lights are turned on.

I do not think this idea is possible. Then again, when it comes to CANBUS stuff, well, that's all Greek to me...

Believe me, if the cluster lights were regular bulbs, that frigging TPMS bulb would've been trashed long ago...lol.

Last edited by ILM-NC G37S; Jul 17, 2021 at 03:37 PM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RaawG37
Audio, Video & Electronics
0
Feb 10, 2020 04:11 PM
forrmark
Body Interior Exterior Lighting
0
Feb 10, 2017 10:28 AM
PR_G37
Body Interior Exterior Lighting
14
Apr 12, 2011 05:42 PM
johnny872005
Brakes, Suspension, Wheels & Tires
9
Jun 4, 2009 01:34 PM
MadLove
Audio, Video & Electronics
5
Jul 3, 2008 01:31 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:31 PM.