^ Looks nice other than what's going on with the bumper on either side of the license plate but the only way to own a German car is under warranty or on lease. German Reliability vs Japanese Reliability = No Contest.

 

Exactly. That's why I'm die-hard Japanese. It's all about getting the most value for your money.

I don't want to buy a 40/50/60k dollar car that costs a small fortune to maintain and keep in perfect running order.

 

That M2 is small too. I have seen one in person and it looks way too small for me

 

That's what I like about it. I use to have an e46 and thought it was the perfect size; the M2 is almost identically sized to the e46. It's smaller than a 4-Series length wise by around 9". The M2's trunk is just as big as a 4-Series and it has folding rear seats. I rarely have back seat passengers so it's not a big deal for me to have a smaller car. I know it won't suit everyone's needs, but smaller cars are so much more fun to drive. The Q60 is going to be 1.5~2" longer than a 4-Series. Not to say it won't handle great or be a great car in itself. Just that it's between these two cars that I'm contemplating on buying. Right now I have no idea which car will come out ahead, but I know I'll make a decision once everyone's cards are on the table.

 

I also prefer smaller. another thing to consider is resale value - G37's sell for half of what they cost new after 2 years. I would guess BMW's hold their value a little more.

 

Good point.

But if you plan on only keeping a vehicle for 2 or 3 years, you might as well lease it.

Especially if you're buying a brand new vehicle. You lose a ton of money selling a new vehicle after owning it for only a couple years.

My car new sold for $45k (to whoever originally purchased it). I bought it with 16k miles for $27K.

Crazy depreciation.

 

That's not true at all, I dare you to find me one unmolested example of G37 selling for half the original cost after 2 years. I've sold my G35 for 45% of the original price 7 years later.

 

Frankly if I can afford it, I prefer new. I keep cars for at least 10 years and frankly you have no idea how the previous owner handled the single most important thing ..... oil changes. So many people buy a car (including expensive ones) and become the cheapest ba$tard in the world when it comes to the life blood of a car.

 

If I can afford it I also prefer new as I keep my cars for a while. I have had my current 2008 G/Q which I bought brand new. So as long as I am able, I plan on buying the new Q60 new when they come out.

 

No sh*t! When I lived in LA I saw a guy in a Ferarri F430 getting an oil change at an Oil Stop! Its not even my car and I cringed!

 

I was amazed that Tesla scored so low it's not even a recommended car by Consumer Reports anymore. Also was surprised to see the BMW 2-Series which the M2 is based off of had an above average reliability rating.



Lexus rolls, Tesla stumbles in reliability survey

 

Infiniti is kinda low! Did they say what 3 models they tested?

 

I saw this and their scoring includes the Infotainment system, which the Q50 had issues with when it was introduced, so that is why it is low. However, I don't consider that a reliability factor, as I am more concerned with the mechanical and things that could leave me strained.

 

^^^Agreed. I thought Infiniti was pretty mechanically sound and reliable. On the flip side, I have heard more than enough horror stories about Audi...yet they are in the "most reliable" section? IDK...I think its all BS personally

 

Eesh. Looks like a Japanese version of the A5.