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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 04:56 PM
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They already said it will be 3.0TT. They might keep old 3.7 as a cheaper alternative to 3.0TT which I'm sure will not be a cheap engine.
No .. that's not the engine i was hoping for !
still not interested here lol ..
Can i has a GTR instead ?!
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Glover998
No .. that's not the engine i was hoping for !
still not interested here lol ..
Can i has a GTR instead ?!
No you cannot has a GTR! lol 3.0TT is more than most people will ever need, probably something around 350-375hp stock, a few relatively inexpensive upgrades and a tune to get 500hp. That's near GTR numbers for half the price.

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
That's one star trek reference. For total win in a single thread, we need at least three.

As much as I'd like the Coupe to always be just a little more expensive than the Sedan, I think it makes sense if they market the Coupe as an entirely separate car, with an entirely unique drive-train. However, the G25 and the Q40 lead me to expect anything can happen, even incomprehensible decisions.
Mention anything at all about modding the car in any way and Chekov will magically appear out of nowhere like Beetlejuice to denounce you juvenile delinquent scofflaw whippersnappers and your confounded hot rods menacing the decent motorists of the world. True story. His very appearance in the thread is a second reference simply by virtue of his chosen user name.

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^ Not my mother of tongue .. can you say hello in Arabic ?!
can i has some english sessions bro ?!


Ease up that sarcasm buddy, it's not an english forum, was just writing in a hurry that's all.
Cheers ..
While I'm more than certain that your grasp of English is far better than the few phrases I know in Arabic, it has been posted all throughout the thread directly and by links that the car will have a 3.0L TT engine. You didn't even make an effort. At all.

Sarcasm justification - intact.
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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Ive seen several posters speculating that the new 3.0L TT engine will make 3xx HP. Why does anyone think this? It makes 450 HP in the Q80 Inspiration concept (plus another 100+ from the hybrid system). That's been documented. Who thinks that they will detune that much power from its current output? And why would they? Certainly not to keep it out of GTR territory which is currently 545 HP. So do those of you who think this feel it will be that low?
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:35 PM
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Mention anything at all about modding the car in any way and Chekov will magically appear out of nowhere like Beetlejuice
Eww. You're right about that. Although your reference misses the mark, because Beetlejuice was actually fun to be around.

In any event, that's two.

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Ive seen several posters speculating that the new 3.0L TT engine will make 3xx HP. Why does anyone think this? It makes 450 HP in the Q80 Inspiration concept (plus another 100+ from the hybrid system). That's been documented. Who thinks that they will detune that much power from its current output? And why would they? Certainly not to keep it out of GTR territory which is currently 545 HP. So do those of you who think this feel it will be that low?
I think it's a reasonable guess to put the TT north of 400hp, and expect very low 13's from this car straight off the showroom.

But IMO that would only be the case if they offer both engines. If the TT becomes the only engine, I imagine it under 400hp.

Then again... the IPL was a pitiful 15hp bump. I don't really understand why they make the decisions they do.

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
Ive seen several posters speculating that the new 3.0L TT engine will make 3xx HP. Why does anyone think this? It makes 450 HP in the Q80 Inspiration concept (plus another 100+ from the hybrid system). That's been documented. Who thinks that they will detune that much power from its current output? And why would they? Certainly not to keep it out of GTR territory which is currently 545 HP. So do those of you who think this feel it will be that low?
The engine in Q80 (if they ever make it that is) will probably be hand assembled alongside GTR engine and will be build to handle 450hp so it will need a lot of beefed up internals. It will cost A LOT but will have all of the latest technology and will use exotic materials, all assembled in a dust free facility by master technician. Q60 engine will most likely will be mass produced variant of stroked 2.0T they currently build in Tennesse for Mercedes and Q30, they just need to make it bigger and throw an extra turbo on it. Much cheaper and easier to produce.

This is all speculation of course, I don't have a shred of evidence for any of this.
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:47 PM
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I am expecting and hoping for 375-400 hp to be honest!
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
Mention anything at all about modding the car in any way and Chekov will magically appear out of nowhere like Beetlejuice to denounce you juvenile delinquent scofflaw whippersnappers and your confounded hot rods menacing the decent motorists of the world. True story. His very appearance in the thread is a second reference simply by virtue of his chosen user name.

While I'm more than certain that your grasp of English is far better than the few phrases I know in Arabic, it has been posted all throughout the thread directly and by links that the car will have a 3.0L TT engine. You didn't even make an effort. At all.

Sarcasm justification - intact.
i swear to God that i know about the 3.0TT already .. since yesterday to be precised.. but why didn't mention that besides the 3.7 ..

but whyyyyyyyy .. ?


Anyways, if the 3.0TT gonna put somewhere between 380-450 then that wud spark my plugs .. sorry interest !
Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:42 PM
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I'm saying 375 due to them having to leave a comfortable cushion for the Eau Rouge and its coupe counterpart.
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Originally Posted by serega13
The engine in Q80 (if they ever make it that is) will probably be hand assembled alongside GTR engine and will be build to handle 450hp so it will need a lot of beefed up internals. It will cost A LOT but will have all of the latest technology and will use exotic materials, all assembled in a dust free facility by master technician. Q60 engine will most likely will be mass produced variant of stroked 2.0T they currently build in Tennesse for Mercedes and Q30, they just need to make it bigger and throw an extra turbo on it. Much cheaper and easier to produce.

This is all speculation of course, I don't have a shred of evidence for any of this.
Damn. YOU linked to the story on MT where Infiniti's own press release confirmed that it is the all new 3.0L TT engine from the Q80 Concept, not some Frankenstein bastardization of the current 2.0L engine or a MB sourced motor. Why don't you believe them? It doesn't say anything about a hand assembled engine built in the GTR facility in Yokohama. There's only 4 guys who do that and I'm pretty sure they can't possibly keep up with GTR production and build these engines that will not be a limited production piece like the GTR.

But speculate away!
Old Jan 15, 2015 | 08:13 AM
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Oh did that say 3.0 liter twin turbo??? I thought it was a 30 liter tri-turbo... I read that ALL wrong... Ya know what? I don't think this is the right car for me after correcting my understanding. I can't deal with only having around 375 to possibly north of 400 hp... Weak sauce
Old Jan 15, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
Damn. YOU linked to the story on MT where Infiniti's own press release confirmed that it is the all new 3.0L TT engine from the Q80 Concept, not some Frankenstein bastardization of the current 2.0L engine or a MB sourced motor. Why don't you believe them? It doesn't say anything about a hand assembled engine built in the GTR facility in Yokohama. There's only 4 guys who do that and I'm pretty sure they can't possibly keep up with GTR production and build these engines that will not be a limited production piece like the GTR.

But speculate away!
Speculating is fun! Yes you are right, they said it was all new 3.0TT. Instead of speculation we can just look at the past, they have been reusing the same engine for all their models with VQ. They could be doing the same with this new turbo mill. Just add electric motor for Q80. But it's hard for me to believe new Q60 will go from 330 to 450. That's just too much of a jump. G35 to G37 they went from 298 to 330. That's 10%. That falls in line with my prediction of about 375hp. Perhaps new 3.0TT will come with several tunes for various applications, one tune could be as high as 450?

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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by serega13
Speculating is fun! Yes you are right, they said it was all new 3.0TT. Instead of speculation we can just look at the past, they have been resusing the same engine for all their models with VQ. They could be doing the same with this new turbo mill. Just add electric motor for Q80. But it's hard for me to believe new Q60 will go from 328 to 450. That's just too much of a jump. G35 to G37 they went from 298 to 330. That's 10%. That falls in line with my prediction of about 375hp. Perhaps new 3.0TT will come with several tunes for various applications, one tune could be as high as 450?
The car will exceed the Q50 Hybrid's combined 360HP but not exceed 375.

If you look at the history of time, you will see that the G coupe has ALWAYS shared the same engine as the Z. This only means the next Z will also get this twin turbo 3.0 . I have strong feeling they will put 400 horses in the Z.

The thing is, Nissan has partnered with Mercedes. Mercedes CLA AMG makes 354HP. Their brand new C450 AMG makes 362HP and 384TQ out of what? Exactly a 3.0L twin turbo. Nissan HAS to best the performance of the Benz, even though they are partners, they are STILL competitors.

Bottom line, 375HP out of their new TT 3.0L will stand above the rest, and still keep plenty of room between the 400HP Z and the future IPL/Eau Rouge variants of the Q60, which will exceed 550HP+
Old Jan 15, 2015 | 10:33 AM
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Z was never more powerful than G, other than maybe 2hp because of no baffling on the intake. NISMO and IPL might get a bump of about 25hp but I think base model Z and new Q60 will have the same or nearly the same hp.
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Originally Posted by serega13
Z was never more powerful than G, other than maybe 2hp because of no baffling on the intake. NISMO and IPL might get a bump of about 25hp but I think base model Z and new Q60 will have the same or nearly the same hp.
In the performance department, the Z has extremely strong competitors....and currently even a Mustang GT can mop the floor with a Z. The next Z has to have an abundance of power and must be even lighter to compete.



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