So you don't think I should take it to the dealer?

 

Also why are people talking about rear tow and -1 cambers
When I didn't lower the car , it has stock suspension
And before removing my x-ice 3 I noticed my alignment was off
But this is just ridiculous I feel like my car is driving where ever it wants
My car seems to be running nice transmission wise and motor
But I had thought everyone agreed don't lower the car and you can put these
Tires size and rims with absolutely no need for a camber kit or spacers.
My offset is conservative but it's better then to aggressive

 

lol sorry for the typo's

 

The tow and camber are changed even if the suspension was not altered when you run a larger or smaller diameter tire then what was originally on the vehicle. Say your OEM tires are 27" tall. If you change your tires and the diameter is changed say from 27" to 29" or 27' to 25" then it will change the way the tires sit in relation to the ground. I'm not an expert by any means but you can pretty much take what our Moderator Blnewt says as gospel when it comes to tires and such. He's very helpful in this area. I still say it sounds like your alignment is out.

I believe your rim offset doesn't really impact the tow or camber. "I think" that the offset is just the relation of the rims center line to where the rim actually mounts onto the vehicles hub. Again, I could be wrong and I know that there is more to it but I'm just trying to help.

I'd get it taken back to your dealer if it was the Infiniti dealership that did the work. I'm wondering if the hubcentric rings were installed when they put the rims on your car.

 

Yes!

In this world you usually get get what you pay for.
Buy cheap you will usually end up paying twice.

I no longer trust anyone but the dealer to touch my G
i don't mind paying their labor rate because their work is always done right the first time and i get a loaner vehicle if necessary.

I hope you payed El Cheapo shop by credit card?
Never ever have automotive work done and not use a credit card.
Call the credit card company after the dealer determines they screwed up your alignment.
Get that all in writing, pay by credit card and send the dealer documentation bill with your letter of dispute for poor workmanship to the credit card company requesting a charge back from the El Cheapo shop.

Call the credit card customer service first thing tomorrow morning so they will note your file until you send them everything in writing.

Good luck

Telcoman

 

This is great advice^^^^ I too only allow the dealership to work on my vehicle.

 

Definitely sounds like the alignment is off and the larger and wider wheels/tires are starting to magnify the issue. I noticed my old Altima SE-R started to tramline (follow the road crown surface) a lot more with a set of Falkens 451s that were wider. Every tire is different, some will tramline more than others, but I'm willing to bet they are just magnifying an already existing issue. If you had snow tires on before those would easily soak up any issues because they tend to be narrower, have softer sidewalls, and big 'soft' tread blocks.

I've always had good luck going to the dealer for 4 wheel alignments since they tend to know these Infinitis the best. Just ask for a discount or special alignment price - they tend to have promotions.

 

OP, since you already said your alignment is out I think you've already found your culprit. When you go to wider tires it will amplify alignment issues and doesn't take much to get the kind of drive that you're experiencing. Getting the wheels & tires that you did won't require any additional camber arms or toe bolts. Only part you may want would be spacers if your offsets are too conservative. Just get that alignment verified and let us know how it goes.

 

Perfect thank you everyone for all your advice
Monday is Easter so I guess Tuesday
I'll take it to the dealer.

Just one more thing
Why would I want spacer for looks or there
Actually functional ?

I think the car looks awesome, guys I'm not a trouble
Maker . So I won't be calling the credit card company
I didn't ask them to do an alignment so it wouldn't make
Sense to say there liable there were asked to mount the new tires on
My cv1's so I guess that's what they did
They did charge me $1300 for tires , install and toms sensor reset and install on cv1's I bought the sensors online

Thanks everyone again !

 

There's not really much function to a spacer, gives a bit wider track but that's about it. Only reall reasons to use them is to give wheels clearance for big brake calipers or getting the tires more flush to the fenders. Some spacers also are hub adapters (so you can mount a different bolt pattern) but that's about it. You didn't post any pics so as long as you're happy w/ the look and the fit I wouldn't go w/ spacers.
Good luck w/ your alignment, hopefully it's an easy fix. Nothing worse than spending a bunch of money expecting to be happy and coming up short

 

Ya for sure, too be honest the reason i haven't posted any pictures is because my car is kinda of my project car and i wanted to surprise a few forum member's with the little mods i've been doing myself. I hope i can figure out my problem so your saying go to the dealer just to be clear or i found this specialty shop that does suspensions and alignments and camber kit installs and lowering rides etc.

i was thinking maybe of heading there ?

 

Where you take it is your call, if that specialty shop is a reputable place that should be a good option.

 

You do not need to be lowered for your alignment to be off. Just normal driving, going over rail road tracks, pot holes can knock your alignment off easily. I try to get mines done either once every 6-12 months. I just got mines re-done again and my toe was knocked off..And my car isn't even my daily.

I was interested in reading more about tramlining so I did a little research and read "Noticeable increases in tramlining are frequently uncovered when drivers living in the snowbelt make the seasonal changeover from winter tires to summer tires."

But I wouldn't take it to the dealership and pay them a premium for a basic alignment. Personally I'm not a fond of the dealer doing anything other than warranty work. I've had them do my inspection and have watched them. All they do is have some high school kid work on your car. Any firestone , ntb, or shops local to you should be able to tackle the job no problem. I would just take it there since it sounds pretty severe.

You could read more about it here

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=47

 

I dunno if your exaggerating but a staggered set up on un even roads will pull you to whatever way the road is tunneling to. Go on a nicely paved new road and check out how it drives there.

 

Well I'm not exaggerating it does that even if the road is straight
In no way I'd consider the way my car is behaving to be normal
Regardless I was accelerating on a ramp and my car just randomly moved more
Left instantly . I have to hold the steering tight to have some control
Scary to be honest


I think I'll take it to the specialty shop they have a great reputation