DIY: Whiteline Differential bushings
#32
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I did my whiteline bushing install this past weekend. It was more PIA than I expected. I have some extra bracing in the way, so it took a bit longer. Tvpostsound did a great write up and I don't have much to add. Sawzall is the way to go in terms of removing the center bushing.
#33
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Yeah, I have an extra piece welded to the exhaust area that made it more difficult to fit a sawzall. I also have a couple of extra braces that needed to be removed. I was trying to avoid taking off the midsection of my exhaust but had to I order to remove the sway bar.
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#36
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The black drip of death! Just my luck I had to do this mod/repair after my bumper to bumper warranty expired...and I can confirm that the Whiteline G35/350Z diff. bushing kit (KDT911) will work with the G37. Thanks for trailblazing on the install TVPostSound!!!!
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#37
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Does the rear bushing fit in there centered (front to back) or will I have to space it? Did any of you use a lock washer or a jam nut?
Someone on 370z said that you will have to tighten the rear nut down evry once in a while because it loosens up with this new bushing. Someone else said there rear bushing came out on them ( towards the front side I think).
Someone on 370z said that you will have to tighten the rear nut down evry once in a while because it loosens up with this new bushing. Someone else said there rear bushing came out on them ( towards the front side I think).
#38
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A spacer is not necessary. Just torque the bushing nut to spec. (81 ft-lbs). It'll slide into the subframe bushing sleeve and sit where it needs to be. I feel it is pretty secure but it would not hurt to use a lock washer if you are concerned about the effects of vibration...but that concern would have been true with the nut on the OEM bushing as well. The install instructions for the Whiteline bushing does advise to recheck the mounts after the initial 100km travelled.
A bushing completely falling out or coming loose sounds like an under torqued bushing nut but who knows. I'm just glad I saved $1200+ over the OEM alternative (a new subframe!).
A bushing completely falling out or coming loose sounds like an under torqued bushing nut but who knows. I'm just glad I saved $1200+ over the OEM alternative (a new subframe!).
Last edited by Veloz G; 04-27-2013 at 03:01 AM.
#39
Does the rear bushing fit in there centered (front to back) or will I have to space it? Did any of you use a lock washer or a jam nut?
Someone on 370z said that you will have to tighten the rear nut down evry once in a while because it loosens up with this new bushing. Someone else said there rear bushing came out on them ( towards the front side I think).
Someone on 370z said that you will have to tighten the rear nut down evry once in a while because it loosens up with this new bushing. Someone else said there rear bushing came out on them ( towards the front side I think).
The bushing fits fairly centered.
The center sleeve is a metal cup with a bolt hole, it contacts the boss on the differential, the nut you reuse is a locknut. Torque to specs.
There is no reason for it to loosen.
The 370Z post about it falling out, was an Energy Suspension urethane sleeve, where you reuse the inner metal sleeve. The metal stayed, but the urethane slipped out. Another mentioned the nit loosening, that was also an ES bushing.
The Whiteline is bonded to the sleeve, same as the OEM.
I have been abusing the bushing while rewriting, and testing my ECT maps, theres no problem here!! No loosening, and the diif does not move like the OEM!!
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#42
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@ TVPostSound. My friends William and Donald at CarZone on Sepulveda did the install. In my experience they're great guys. Being in Granada Hills, you may likely be familiar with the shop since it is extremely local to you.
One question I do have for you. I've been driving for a couple of days with the WL bushing setup installed exactly as you described and love the firmer rear traction; however, I have noticed a very brief low freq. humming noise/vibration coming from the rear only when quickly accelerating between 20-30 MPH (I have a 6MT model). It quickly goes away once I ease off on the gas and stop accelerating. Have you experienced this as well?
One question I do have for you. I've been driving for a couple of days with the WL bushing setup installed exactly as you described and love the firmer rear traction; however, I have noticed a very brief low freq. humming noise/vibration coming from the rear only when quickly accelerating between 20-30 MPH (I have a 6MT model). It quickly goes away once I ease off on the gas and stop accelerating. Have you experienced this as well?
Last edited by Veloz G; 04-28-2013 at 06:16 AM.
#43
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Once you start replacing all the mushy rubber with new stiffer polyurethane .. The car gets loud . I replaced my engine mounts , trans mount and getting ready to replace my bushing as well .. I had to sound deaden the car and it helped a lot with vibrations and noise ..
#44
@ TVPostSound. My friends William and Donald at CarZone on Sepulveda did the install. In my experience they're great guys. Being in Granada Hills, you may likely be familiar with the shop since it is extremely local to you.
One question I do have for you. I've been driving for a couple of days with the WL bushing setup installed exactly as you described and love the firmer rear traction; however, I have noticed a very brief low freq. humming noise/vibration coming from the rear only when quickly accelerating between 20-30 MPH (I have a 6MT model). It quickly goes away once I ease off on the gas and stop accelerating. Have you experienced this as well?
One question I do have for you. I've been driving for a couple of days with the WL bushing setup installed exactly as you described and love the firmer rear traction; however, I have noticed a very brief low freq. humming noise/vibration coming from the rear only when quickly accelerating between 20-30 MPH (I have a 6MT model). It quickly goes away once I ease off on the gas and stop accelerating. Have you experienced this as well?
#45
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Drivetrain rumble when accelerating is solved! Whiteline's KDT911 instructions to position the smaller vertical diff. mount bushing at the top and larger vertical diff. mount bushing at the bottom caused an out of phase pinion angle at the diff. end of the drive shaft (pinion nose up). To recover the OEM pinion angle, we reversed the bushing positions (larger on the top and smaller on the bottom). I am not sure if the diff. pinion angles between the G35 and the G37 are indeed different but our experience hints that that may be the case. If anyone senses drivetrain rumbling like I did, this may be a way to fix it.
Last edited by Veloz G; 04-30-2013 at 03:34 AM.
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