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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 02:07 AM
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Lowering 4WS Toe adjustments?

Caught the bug bad again after purchasing a used 08 6MT Sport Coupe and plan on lowering it soon.

My main question is when lowered will there be ample toe adjustment on the 4WS system? Will the 4WS cause any excessive wear or issues when lowered? I don't want to tear though tires since I will be running slight camber to fit 20x10.5 +22 in the rear.

Is coilover the best option for a daily spirited driver?


Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!

P.s. I searched all over but couldn't find much on the 4WS subject. I guess its not a very popular option...
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by stevo4756
Caught the bug bad again after purchasing a used 08 6MT Sport Coupe and plan on lowering it soon.

My main question is when lowered will there be ample toe adjustment on the 4WS system? Will the 4WS cause any excessive wear or issues when lowered? I don't want to tear though tires since I will be running slight camber to fit 20x10.5 +22 in the rear.

Is coilover the best option for a daily spirited driver?


Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!

P.s. I searched all over but couldn't find much on the 4WS subject. I guess its not a very popular option...
That's a good question Steve. I haven't looked at that system as far as the difference in equipment that would involve the lower control arm (aka spring bucket). You might want to contact SPC and see if the parts cover the AWS models
Specialty Products Company | SPC Alignment | The Automotive Alignment Leaders
Or maybe someone w/ AWS can chime in.
G/L w/ your new coupe, those 10.5 +22s are going to take some work but once fitted properly should look
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Bump, anyone lower there car with 4WS? Aftermarket toe bolts do not work for the 4ws system. If you see the pic, there are brackets stopped us from making more adjustment.

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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 09:27 AM
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I stand corrected:

Okay so apparently you can install the SPC cam/toe kit to adjust the toe. The 4ws have a adjustment similar to non-4ws cars, it just looks like a very tight spot. I am running stock toe bolts and they cannot get the toe into spec, alignment showed -1.6 degree which you can barely handle the car, its very squirrelly. A buddy of mine has the 4ws on his 07 G35 and installed the SPC toe kit. The 4ws will not adjust/fix the toe to 0 degrees because I don't think it has the logic to do so. It just changes the toe up to 1 degree when needed.

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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nishfish871
I stand corrected:

Okay so apparently you can install the SPC cam/toe kit to adjust the toe. The 4ws have a adjustment similar to non-4ws cars, it just looks like a very tight spot. I am running stock toe bolts and they cannot get the toe into spec, alignment showed -1.6 degree which you can barely handle the car, its very squirrelly. A buddy of mine has the 4ws on his 07 G35 and installed the SPC toe kit. The 4ws will not adjust/fix the toe to 0 degrees because I don't think it has the logic to do so. It just changes the toe up to 1 degree when needed.

That looks like they used the SPC Camber bolt kit, the bolts are about 1/2" shorter than teh SPC toe bolt set, I wouldn't run those bolts, not enough bolt to thread safe & secure.
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 09:57 PM
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That looks like they used the SPC Camber bolt kit, the bolts are about 1/2" shorter than teh SPC toe bolt set, I wouldn't run those bolts, not enough bolt to thread safe & secure.
Other than the length is there a difference in the camber bolt kit and toe kit?

Why would they use the camber bolt kit in this situation? looks dangerous ...
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by stevo4756
Other than the length is there a difference in the camber bolt kit and toe kit?

Why would they use the camber bolt kit in this situation? looks dangerous ...
No, the concentric washer, bolt diameter, and offset are the same, just the bolt length is different. And yes, that's not safe at all Parts get mixed up all the time unfortunately, either ordered the wrong part or received the wrong part
Here's a thread from a while back that I found this out from~
https://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-...toe-bolts.html
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 11:21 AM
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I have installed the SPC Toe Bolts kit using the SPC Rotary Bits, it ate through the steel like butter using a right angle drill. This with conjunction with the SPL rear camber arms I was able to get back into spec.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxm...ew?usp=sharing
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