Camber kit needed for Swift or Eibach springs?
08-19-2014, 11:05 PM
#1
Camber kit needed for Swift or Eibach springs?
I'm planning on doing a mild drop (just enough to eliminate the ugly wheel gap) and will most likely be going for swift or eibach springs. I am wondering what kind of camber numbers you guys got after lowering on springs? I searched the forum already and most of the data I found was for sedans, many of which were awd. Any numbers for coupe/rwd owners?
I am hoping I can get the numbers to within limits after an alignment without camber kit, the camber kits would drive up the total cost by quite a bit
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Is it really that bad for tire wear if you drive around with like -1.8 to -2 camber?
I am hoping I can get the numbers to within limits after an alignment without camber kit, the camber kits would drive up the total cost by quite a bit
. Is it really that bad for tire wear if you drive around with like -1.8 to -2 camber?
Last edited by halfshaft; 08-19-2014 at 11:31 PM.
08-19-2014, 11:11 PM
#2
I have a coupe on Eibach with a front and rear spc camber/toe kit.
Here is the short story:
Some people run no kits and swear it's fine. It's almost unanimously agreed upon that a rear kit is NEEDED to save tires from premature wear (~$140). The front kit ensures that all specs can be brought back with OEM ranges (~$300). As long as you get an alignment and make sure TOE SPECS are within the specified ranged, regardless of camber slightly out, tire wear has been noted as minimal.
Here is the short story:
Some people run no kits and swear it's fine. It's almost unanimously agreed upon that a rear kit is NEEDED to save tires from premature wear (~$140). The front kit ensures that all specs can be brought back with OEM ranges (~$300). As long as you get an alignment and make sure TOE SPECS are within the specified ranged, regardless of camber slightly out, tire wear has been noted as minimal.
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08-20-2014, 12:22 AM
#4
I'm running swifts without a kit. The fronts are within specs but the rear is a bit out but not enough for any premature wear. I haven't had any issues on wear. Just be sure to get an alignment and make sure the toe is within specs. The rear camber was slightly out for me. I did buy the kit but didn't install it. Do what you want. If you are paranoid then buy and install the kit.
08-20-2014, 01:13 AM
#6
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I'm running swifts without a kit. The fronts are within specs but the rear is a bit out but not enough for any premature wear. I haven't had any issues on wear. Just be sure to get an alignment and make sure the toe is within specs. The rear camber was slightly out for me. I did buy the kit but didn't install it. Do what you want. If you are paranoid then buy and install the kit.
08-20-2014, 01:14 AM
#7
Im actually in the same boat as you, their are a lot of people who will say you don't need them, but like everyone else on here says, better safe than sorry. You should definently look into the tein h-techs too(not the s techs). They look really good, have a decent mild drop, and are normally a little bit cheaper.
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08-20-2014, 01:22 AM
#8
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People, put the cambers on....I had the Eibach PK on my 350z and the tires didn't last 8k. This time I did it right and I don't have to worry about premature tire wear.
08-20-2014, 08:32 AM
#9
another in for camber kit.
my swifts ended up with rear camber worse than 2.0, but I believe now that was because my LCA and toe adjuster bolts were seized up (canada) and the alignment guys weren't able to max out the oem adjustment in the rear
my swifts ended up with rear camber worse than 2.0, but I believe now that was because my LCA and toe adjuster bolts were seized up (canada) and the alignment guys weren't able to max out the oem adjustment in the rear
08-20-2014, 08:46 AM
#10
I really think it depends on how close you can get to factor specifications and the impact on tire wear. I'm currently averaging 10k out of summer tires. If it is so out of spec I'm eating through tires in 5k, then its a different story than if its close to spec and I'm getting 9k out of a set of tires.
08-20-2014, 09:22 AM
#11
I really think it depends on how close you can get to factor specifications and the impact on tire wear. I'm currently averaging 10k out of summer tires. If it is so out of spec I'm eating through tires in 5k, then its a different story than if its close to spec and I'm getting 9k out of a set of tires.
08-20-2014, 12:51 PM
#13
I have seen the tides change on this forum a lot lately regarding this topic. A lot less people saying they can get away without a kit and going back to install the kits.
Just buy the pieces as your budget permits and complete the install when you have acquired all of the parts.
My previous post seems to inadvertently encourage a shoddy job, when in fact, I was just reciting the common mentality on this forum. I installed both camber kits with my Eibach's on the first shot followed by an alignment, and from my research and experience, I'd strongly advise and future suspension modifiers do the same.
Just buy the pieces as your budget permits and complete the install when you have acquired all of the parts.
My previous post seems to inadvertently encourage a shoddy job, when in fact, I was just reciting the common mentality on this forum. I installed both camber kits with my Eibach's on the first shot followed by an alignment, and from my research and experience, I'd strongly advise and future suspension modifiers do the same.
08-20-2014, 04:59 PM
#15
I didn't have camber kits when I initially had my Eibach's installed but after a while I got very noticeable camber wear on my front tires. The rears weren't too bad, but I ended up getting camber kits installed for front and back the next time my car was in the shop.
I'm removing my front camber kits next month though
I'm removing my front camber kits next month though