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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 12:26 AM
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I think if the OP likes his choice in wheels and is happy w/ them that should be good enough. I realize they're quite different from the norm but try to keep the comment light-hearted folks.
Thanks, I guess I should have applied for my groupthink permit before posting.

Fortunately my Newbie thread will help other potential newbies understand they must not post unless their cars are totally stock or have only the appropriate modifications.

"Warm welco... wait WTF is that on your car? IT LOOKS LIKE (*^%#&!!!"

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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 01:27 AM
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Bikezilla is super stoked on his wheels. That's good enough for me.
With a drop, it would look really aggressive, especially if you decided to black out your trim to match.
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 01:42 AM
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Bikezilla is super stoked on his wheels. That's good enough for me.
With a drop, it would look really aggressive, especially if you decided to black out your trim to match.

I like a little flash. Some folks prefer more conservative appearance.

I find the visceral reactions entertaining.
Especially coming from a forum that likes Liberty Walk kits and white letter tires on street cars.

I imagine I could have spent twice as much on a forum approved set of Vossens or whatever other kind of high heels the garage queen is wearing.

Lowering is definately on my to-do list. I've got some research to do there. It's not just the steep price of CO's but also camber kits and understanding what needs to be done enough to make sure the shop does a proper alignment after.

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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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I imagine I could have spent twice as much on a forum approved set of Vossens or whatever other kind of high heels the garage queen is wearing.
LOL. See Newt's advice a few comments back. I did, because Brad is the conscience on this forum, and good thing, too. Lucky to have him here.

Humility is hard, OP, but it can accomplish so much, and everyone wins. G'luck.

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KMC Rockstar 20" x8 wheel w/Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 245/35ZR20
54.2lbs wheel and tire

Stock Inf Sport 19x8.5 w/ Continental Extreme Contact DWS06
245/45ZR19
50.0lbs wheel and tire.
Wait... you went with 8" square, ditching the stagger in preference of a more narrow contact patch?

What was the rationale behind that decision?

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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 11:00 AM
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Zilla, if you want to lower your coupe without breaking the bank take a look at Tein Basis coilovers, they go for about $600 (Rochester got his from Charles @ B2Autodesigns) and they are a mild drop coilover (2" drop or less) and if you keep it in the 1.5 " range you should be ok w/ just a rear 4 bolt camber bolt/toe bolt set, they go for about $50 so if you can DIY the install you're out $650 plus the alignment.
Here's some info on both
TEIN.com: STREET BASIS - PRODUCTS
And the bolts (you need two kits total)
SPC Performance Camber/Toe Cam Bolt Kit; Pair, Reqr's 1 per Wheel INFINITI FX35

http://www.spcalignment.com/componen...AFrom&to=USATo

And the install for the bolts
http://www.spcalignment.com/instruct...65-INS_WEB.pdf
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
Zilla, if you want to lower your coupe without breaking the bank take a look at Tein Basis coilovers, they go for about $600 (Rochester got his from Charles @ B2Autodesigns) and they are a mild drop coilover (2" drop or less) and if you keep it in the 1.5 " range you should be ok w/ just a rear 4 bolt camber bolt/toe bolt set, they go for about $50 so if you can DIY the install you're out $650 plus the alignment.
Here's some info on both
TEIN.com: STREET BASIS - PRODUCTS
And the bolts (you need two kits total)
SPC Performance Camber/Toe Cam Bolt Kit; Pair, Reqr's 1 per Wheel INFINITI FX35

http://www.spcalignment.com/componen...AFrom&to=USATo

And the install for the bolts
http://www.spcalignment.com/instruct...65-INS_WEB.pdf

That's the awesome kind of post that makes this the top shelf forum it is, thanks!

Yes, I only want to fill out the wheel wells so I think 1.5 -2" should be more than enough and the roads in my area would be a real challenge for anything more.

I've been reading your coilover thread and forgot the great price on Tiens.

I'll do some more research, and calculations and see if it'll do the job, still be streetable for a daily driver plus a couple of other considerations.
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Originally Posted by bikezilla
That's the awesome kind of post that makes this the top shelf forum it is, thanks!

Yes, I only want to fill out the wheel wells so I think 1.5 -2" should be more than enough and the roads in my area would be a real challenge for anything more.

I've been reading your coilover thread and forgot the great price on Tiens.

I'll do some more research, and calculations and see if it'll do the job, still be streetable for a daily driver plus a couple of other considerations.
Here's a couple threads on those coilovers, here's a coupe w/ pics on
page 2
https://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-...alignment.html
Sedan
https://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-...alignment.html
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
Here's a couple threads on those coilovers, here's a coupe w/ pics on
page 2
https://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-...alignment.html
Sedan
https://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-...alignment.html

Thanks again. Most helpful!

The thing about cutting holes for the camber bolts is curious. Not beyond my doing, but I do want to understand the impact and if it leaves me in a place I cannot back out form, should I decide to return to stock, or have warranty work done.

I've got a 6yr warranty on the car so I'd like to be able to put things back if necessary.
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 10:33 PM
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Thanks again. Most helpful!

The thing about cutting holes for the camber bolts is curious. Not beyond my doing, but I do want to understand the impact and if it leaves me in a place I cannot back out form, should I decide to return to stock, or have warranty work done.

I've got a 6yr warranty on the car so I'd like to be able to put things back if necessary.
As long as you're careful with the cutting (staying within the enclosed templates) your OEM toe & camber bolts will still work in those longer slots if you ever want to put back to stock. The new bolts are the same thickness, they just mount more outside on those washers so they have a longer sliding range. One tip to make the job easier is you ONLY have to cut to the inside of the template, the side that faces to the center of the car. When you place the template over the stock slot you'll see that there's about a 1/4" on both sides of the slot that would be cut, but you only have to cut the side to the center, not the side to the outside of the car. To adjust to less negative camber and to adjust toe back to spec both those bolts need to slide toward the middle of the car, not to the outside, so you don't need the slot widened on that side. It will make sense when you get to it.
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester

Wait... you went with 8" square, ditching the stagger in preference of a more narrow contact patch?

What was the rationale behind that decision?
Not sure where the idea of a staggered arrangement came in but the car is AWD and came square footed.

on my last post I did make a C&P Error on the tire codes and initially repeated the same width for both sets. (But stated correctly in the OP)

It should read...
I got the car with:
225/45ZR19 Continental Contact Extreme DWS06 all around

and put on:
245/35ZR20 Hankook Ventus V12 EVO2 all around.

So the new tires are wider.

In my last post I said both sets were 245s so I still don't quite understand the what you mean by a smaller contact patch.

Is it that the 0.5 inch narrower wheelset will pinch the wider tires into a thinner strip?

My semi-scientific observations suggest otherwise. Eyeballing the tires with a tape measure, The 'Kooks treads are at least a half inch wider edge to edge. And if I understand sizing codes correctly 245s are 20mm (0.8") wider than 225s so that seems to make sense, I could imagine my casual glance could be off by that 0.3" reaching under a wheel well.
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
As long as you're careful with the cutting (staying within the enclosed templates) your OEM toe & camber bolts will still work in those longer slots if you ever want to put back to stock. The new bolts are the same thickness, they just mount more outside on those washers so they have a longer sliding range. One tip to make the job easier is you ONLY have to cut to the inside of the template, the side that faces to the center of the car. When you place the template over the stock slot you'll see that there's about a 1/4" on both sides of the slot that would be cut, but you only have to cut the side to the center, not the side to the outside of the car. To adjust to less negative camber and to adjust toe back to spec both those bolts need to slide toward the middle of the car, not to the outside, so you don't need the slot widened on that side. It will make sense when you get to it.

More great advice thanks again!

Hmm. I really have to get under the beast and see what I'm getting myself into. I wonder if I can use a dremel and a barrel cuttting tool instead of the one in the kit. It seems shaped the same but of course the actual size of the job is what matters. I figure it would be easier and more exact to cut with a Dremmel on a flex-shaft than a cordless drill.

So I the camber adjustments are for the alignment guy, correct? I eyeball it vs. the orig settings and then leave it for the professional alignment rack yes?
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Zilla, guess it slipped that you have an AWD, forget the Tein Basis plan, they only have them for RWD Gs
Might look into K-Sport AWD coilovers, cost a bit more than the Teins but should do well on your AWD.
Yep, just try to keep your alignment close and run it lightly until you get to the alignment shop.
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bikezilla
Not sure where the idea of a staggered arrangement came in but the car is AWD and came square footed.
xS Coupe. Right.

In the Sedan world, only the RWD Sport Sedan gets the BBK. And since the RWD Sport Package is a staggered setup on both the Sedan and Coupe... that's how that happened. I keep getting re-reminded that the xS Coupe gets worthy brakes, whereas the xS Sedan doesn't.

Didn't help that Brad was talking about Tein Basis. Oh hey, Brad. LOL
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:46 PM
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xS Coupe. Right.

In the Sedan world, only the RWD Sport Sedan gets the BBK. And since the RWD Sport Package is a staggered setup on both the Sedan and Coupe... that's how that happened. I keep getting re-reminded that the xS Coupe gets worthy brakes, whereas the xS Sedan doesn't.

Didn't help that Brad was talking about Tein Basis. Oh hey, Brad. LOL
It took me 17years and my kid graduating high school to finally get back into a coupe... let's not rush me back into a Seddy just yet.

Thanks for the tips folks!
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Old Nov 23, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Zilla, guess it slipped that you have an AWD, ....

Yeah I should probably do something about that.

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