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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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still i bet that 135 you got done up is a mini beast. And i mean that only in size.
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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335i vs G37S

Hello. I work for Infiniti Tustin and drive a BMW. First off. Let me start by saying this. The G37S and the 335i are very comparable cars. Most of the customers that come into our dealership are debating with the 335i. Both cars have their ups and downs. I'm very surprised that the mention of a limited slip differential was NOT included in this discussion. That is a major fault on the 335i that the G37S adopts. Though the 335i is a torque machine and a tuner car, so is the G37S. Guaranteed, if you drop GTM's or Altered Atmosphere Motorsports Twin Turbo kit, the 335i will never compare. No matter how much modding you do to it, the car will just never be able to match. And they say that the 335i handles better, but if you're a true tuner, you will be able to mod the G37S to handle just as well. Stock vs stock: I have had my fair share of experiences with both cars. Working at Infiniti for over a year now, I have tested the G37S stock against the worthy opponent, the 335i. Both cars were very even. The 335i might be quick, but it's not that much faster. I love the 335i and the G37S, but truth be told, with the money you save with the G37S, you might as well put the rest of the cash into modding it, because the 335i will never be able to touch a twin-turbo G37S. 3.7TT > 3.0TT in the end. That is something to really consider.
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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couldn't have said it better +1
Old Mar 28, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimitry6
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couldn't have said it better +1

Thank you Dimitry. Also, a customer from our dealership that owns a shop in Riverside named Felix is a proud Twin-turbo G37S owner and took me for a ride not too long ago. His car dynoed at 537 rwhp and 511 rwtq. This is at 8 PSI. Not even a full bar of boost. The max boost you can get out of the 335i won't even push you past 425 rwhp. My point has been proven.

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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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Willstophe for president!!
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 02:29 AM
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I am looking to get a G37S. My funding is not so great at the moment. I can get a 6MT for 35,000 from my dealership and that's including premium package. Navigation would be nice as well. I do plan on getting one in the future. Though I own a BMW, I do not consider myself to be alike from other BMW owners that refer to the G37S a terrible choice, because it's not. I find it very upsetting to see that most people can't see it's possibilities. It's a beautiful car as the 335i is too. Both cars are most deffinently in the same performance category. But in the end, for the true potential, the G37S does win. When I get my G37S, I will start small by getting a Borla Exhaust and Stillen Generation 3 intakes. My friend Max Ha is the owner of Logic Motorsports and says he will help me tune it to it's maximum potential. I'd also like to put some more thought in this discussion with forced induction. A lot of the 335i owners say that if you twin-turbo the G37S, the engine will not be able to handle it. This information is very incorrect. For one, the 335i is an alluminum block and so is the G37S. I know for a fact that the engine can support up to 8 PSI of boost, simply because I've driven my friend's and it works just fine. If you want to push it more, you can simply upgrade your engine internals. For these reasons, the 335i will never boost above a twin-turbo G37S. Even after dropping 6,000 dollars for RD Sport's Turbo upgrade, it only makes 425 BHP. I have pointed this out to 335i owners and they simply replied by saying nobody will do it? Yet they spent 40,000+ on their car plus upgrades? When the G37S is 35,000 and when you spend that same amount of money it comes out to be almost 200 horsepower and 200 torque more than the 335i? The true tuner would choose this car in the end for these reasons. I have done my research. And after carefully reviewing, the most high-performance potential car is most deffinently the G37S.
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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^all excellent points. when i got my 37, i looked at is as a way better interior with extra $ to make it as fast or faster than the 335.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by willstophe
Thank you Dimitry. Also, a customer from our dealership that owns a shop in Riverside named Felix is a proud Twin-turbo G37S owner and took me for a ride not too long ago. His car dynoed at 537 rwhp and 511 rwtq. This is at 8 PSI. Not even a full bar of boost. The max boost you can get out of the 335i won't even push you past 425 rwhp. My point has been proven.
Is Felix's car in these forums? Those are the biggest numbers I've seen in a VHR! In for more info on that car.
Old Apr 25, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by willstophe
Hello. I work for Infiniti Tustin and drive a BMW. First off. Let me start by saying this. The G37S and the 335i are very comparable cars. Most of the customers that come into our dealership are debating with the 335i. Both cars have their ups and downs. I'm very surprised that the mention of a limited slip differential was NOT included in this discussion. That is a major fault on the 335i that the G37S adopts. Though the 335i is a torque machine and a tuner car, so is the G37S. Guaranteed, if you drop GTM's or Altered Atmosphere Motorsports Twin Turbo kit, the 335i will never compare. No matter how much modding you do to it, the car will just never be able to match. And they say that the 335i handles better, but if you're a true tuner, you will be able to mod the G37S to handle just as well. Stock vs stock: I have had my fair share of experiences with both cars. Working at Infiniti for over a year now, I have tested the G37S stock against the worthy opponent, the 335i. Both cars were very even. The 335i might be quick, but it's not that much faster. I love the 335i and the G37S, but truth be told, with the money you save with the G37S, you might as well put the rest of the cash into modding it, because the 335i will never be able to touch a twin-turbo G37S. 3.7TT > 3.0TT in the end. That is something to really consider.
Great discussion guys. "The 335i will never compare" is not quite true statement. There are now 2 options: with newer turbo kit or without that would go beyond 500whp on the 335i

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=500whp

Option 2 is to go with burgertuning (Juicebox) but I could not find Terry's latest post on his juicebox tuning/modifying. His posted number was very high (I don't think it was close to the figure above however) without new turbo kit.

I'm not trying to say "my car is better than yours". Just some updated information. Then again I'm sure few more months we would see higher numbers from G37 Enjoy!
Old Apr 27, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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I have owned and modified 3 turbo-charged cars. It was so easy to make huge power. My R32 Skyline GTR with Stock R34 nur spec motor, 2 GT2860R turbos runs at 530whp at only 18psi. All I need to do was to upgrade the fuel pump, injectors, turbos, necessary intake, exhaust pipe, and a apexi power FC with a good tune. I can always push it more to over 650whp with larger turbos without breaking a sweat!!.. And that is coming from a 20year old design motor with only 2.6 liter of displacement!!

Turbo charged cars always have more potential to make easy powers than our Normally aspirated cars. To achieve higher power from our car required running a lot of boost. It will take a whole lot to run more boost for the G37 than BMW. It will take a full engine bottom rebuild in order to run high horse power safe. You may only need to upgrade the turbos and maybe a headgasket to run some crazy figures. Running turbo-charged on stock N/A bottom end is pretty much a ticking time bomb. I dont know how much stronger is the VQ37HR compare to VQ35DE. But I have seen so many VQ35DE fail under boost as little as 350whp.

At the end of the day 335 is more mod friendly but I do want to see somebody step up and build a bulletproof VQ37HR and make some big power!!!!

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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Also, Who cares about BMW being faster... The exhaust tone coming out of our cars just make them sound way more exotic than BMWs.
Old Apr 27, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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there's something about BMW that is alluring though.. must be the prestige.
Old Apr 27, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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of course! lol all of the racing was done in a closed and controlled environment.
bwaHaHaHa! hmmmmm, okay.
Old May 4, 2009 | 05:27 AM
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Honestly i went to BMW before i went to Infiniti (sister has an x3 dad has a 750) wanted to keep the **** in the family.. anyways the second i went into the Infiniti dealership i fell in love with how beautiful the G37 looked. Also at Bmw for over fourty thousand your still not getting a premium package with navi and etc. your just getting a name. The 335 i was looking at was just lacking so much that the g37 offers at a much better price.. Not to mention when a chick sees a Bmw she couldnt tell the difference between a 328 or a 335.. when they take a look at a g37 they just want to hop in and come along for the ride because its so damn hot. In my book as far as price g37 is a complete steal.. as far as looks, you see brand new 3 series everyday g37 coupes are rare to come by (as long as ive been driving one) and they just look so sweet. If you honestly care about fractions of a second in performance then you bought the wrong car for the wrong reason.. So the next time your driving at a nice 20mph roll with your windows down and you come across your reflection against glass on a building (or some ****) your gonna say damn this car looks good and you won't ever regret buyin that G37.
Old May 4, 2009 | 05:50 AM
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^ +1 to checking your G out on a reflecting surface!! Everytime I drive past a mirrored building or super shiny glass all I would do is check her out.. I almost hit the curb once haha

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