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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Aftershok
Can anyone speak to the difficulty of the install? I'm fairly green to things like these, and a peek at the instructions on the RJM site look a little daunting, especially with all the technical jargon. I didn't have too much trouble with jsolo's spring install, but this looks like an entirely different level.

Someone mentioned removing the driver's seat can help with the installation? How is that best accomplished?
The install instructions can be found on their website. With a quote of 2 hours labor, I don't think it would be a difficult install if you are handy. As mentioned, it's probably difficult due to the contortion that has to occur to get under the dash. Jeremy (Black Betty) is a bigger guy, so removing the seat would make it easier. I'm a little pudgy (180 5'8") so i can fit underneath but it's not comfortable in the very least. When I do this mod, I would also consider removing the seat. I believe a seat removal consists of unbolting the rail from the car, then disconnecting the electronics, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

This will be on my shopping list for the future.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Richardjoseph0
Shoulda got 7 speed auto. Faster anyway. And wouldn't of had this problem.
dems be fightin' werds
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
A better investment than my sway bars, coils, or quality tires.
LOL what? I mean, I'm interested in the pedal assembly, because I love tweaking the car to suit my particular tastes, but let's be realistic, BB.


Originally Posted by Black Betty
It makes this car much more easy and fun to drive. Never be embarrassed again that you almost stalled the car starting from a green light or that you break your passengers necks every time you shift into 2nd and let the clutch out.
Coincidentally, that's exactly how I describe the effects of installing a simple $20 helper spring. So I'm going on the assumption that this assembly extends the 6MT driving experience past perfect into freaking awesome. Which isn't a bad place to be, so I'm still interested.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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Here's a relevant question: who here has both the RJM Clutch Pedal Assembly *and* an aftermarket short-throw shifter (such as Stillen or B&M)? Both are driving interface modifications for the 6MT crowd. And both are approximately the same cost, give or take, in $$ and installation.

So if you were to prioritize one over the other in terms of which to do first or not at all, which would it be and why?
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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I've read that short shifters don't show any marked improvement over the stock assembly. I had TWM short shifters in my V6 mustang and 09 Lancer (that i no longer own) but shifting those cars was like rowing a boat, so it made a huge difference. I don't think the 6MT has too long of a throw so any short shifters might not be a huge improvement. I could be wrong though since I haven't installed one and am not planning on it. The clutch pedal has always been the one aspect that most 6MT owners complain about (including myself). That and the cement truck sounding transmission...smh.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Here's a relevant question: who here has both the RJM Clutch Pedal Assembly *and* an aftermarket short-throw shifter (such as Stillen or B&M)? Both are driving interface modifications for the 6MT crowd. And both are approximately the same cost, give or take, in $$ and installation.

So if you were to prioritize one over the other in terms of which to do first or not at all, which would it be and why?
That's an easy answer. you know you don't want no stinkin short throw.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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My personal feeling is that the improvement in drivability from the RJM trumps the improvement in handling from sway bars. No question. Simply because handling in the car wasn't bad to begin with, it's pretty good. Sways make a good thing better. The OEM clutch engagement in the car is horrible, one of the worst things about the driving experience to me. The RJM makes a bad thing very good. That's why it ranks higher to me.

As far as a STS, I tried the TWM. I didn't particularly care for it. It did not make shifts noticeably faster or shorter IMO because there's a fairly short throw to begin with. Also I didn't like the lack of refinement it brought with it. Noise, vibration, and a "clunkier" shifting feel. Perhaps there was something wrong with my installation (though I doubt it) but I disliked it to the point of removing it and selling it. So for me its not even a contest as to which mod is preferred - RJM clutch pedal assembly all the way.

To reiterate about the install: it is not difficult in a technical sense. Fairly straightforward and easy to understand specific directions with great pictures. The difficulty for me is the suggested working position. Kneeling on the ground leaning backward with by back across the door will working in a very cramped location that's dark where I can't really see what I'm doing (some things I did by feel) was the problem. But I'm old and fat. It may be easier for someone in better shape. I spent a few minutes removing the driver seat and it was far better for me. I could lie flat on my back, I could get my head and hands underneath the dash better to see and manipulate things better, and it was just a better overall experience. The airbag has to be reset after replacing the seat but that's an east 5 minute process.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
My personal feeling is that the improvement in drivability from the RJM trumps the improvement in handling from sway bars. No question. Simply because handling in the car wasn't bad to begin with, it's pretty good. Sways make a good thing better. The OEM clutch engagement in the car is horrible, one of the worst things about the driving experience to me. The RJM makes a bad thing very good. That's why it ranks higher to me.

As far as a STS, I tried the TWM. I didn't particularly care for it. It did not make shifts noticeably faster or shorter IMO because there's a fairly short throw to begin with. Also I didn't like the lack of refinement it brought with it. Noise, vibration, and a "clunkier" shifting feel. Perhaps there was something wrong with my installation (though I doubt it) but I disliked it to the point of removing it and selling it. So for me its not even a contest as to which mod is preferred - RJM clutch pedal assembly all the way.
Nicely written!

Thank you, BB. I appreciate the thought out response based in hands-on experience. That was great, and without even a hint of hyperbole.

Posts like that are very helpful.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
My personal feeling is that the improvement in drivability from the RJM trumps the improvement in handling from sway bars. No question. Simply because handling in the car wasn't bad to begin with, it's pretty good. Sways make a good thing better. The OEM clutch engagement in the car is horrible, one of the worst things about the driving experience to me. The RJM makes a bad thing very good. That's why it ranks higher to me.

As far as a STS, I tried the TWM. I didn't particularly care for it. It did not make shifts noticeably faster or shorter IMO because there's a fairly short throw to begin with. Also I didn't like the lack of refinement it brought with it. Noise, vibration, and a "clunkier" shifting feel. Perhaps there was something wrong with my installation (though I doubt it) but I disliked it to the point of removing it and selling it. So for me its not even a contest as to which mod is preferred - RJM clutch pedal assembly all the way.

To reiterate about the install: it is not difficult in a technical sense. Fairly straightforward and easy to understand specific directions with great pictures. The difficulty for me is the suggested working position. Kneeling on the ground leaning backward with by back across the door will working in a very cramped location that's dark where I can't really see what I'm doing (some things I did by feel) was the problem. But I'm old and fat. It may be easier for someone in better shape. I spent a few minutes removing the driver seat and it was far better for me. I could lie flat on my back, I could get my head and hands underneath the dash better to see and manipulate things better, and it was just a better overall experience. The airbag has to be reset after replacing the seat but that's an east 5 minute process.
It must have been your response that I read because a short shifter was always on my list of mods. But after reading, it didn't seem like a wise $265 to spend. TWM makes a great product, especially for cars that are not sport in nature, like the above mentioned econobox lancer and sport wannabe 96 V6 mustang. However, with a comfortable, well positioned shifter in the G, it didn't seem like a mod worth spending the money on for a small improvement, if any, or worse yet, poorer than OEM.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 12:36 PM
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I had a 2003 Maxima 6MT for 9 years. Being a cable-linkage shifter, there was this simple mod where you relocate the connecting pin, and it reduced vertical throw by 50%. It took a stupidly HUGE throw and turned it into this amazing experience.

Actually, when modified, the Max's throw was shorter than the throw in my G. Yet all that in context, the G isn't bad, otherwise as good as or better than most.
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