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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 09:29 AM
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Amounts to roughly 8 cross country trips in a year? Surprised that the driver's seat isn't worn more as the car looks brand new.

76-77 miles per day, so maybe it was used as a Lyft/Uber vehicle, or by someone that lived in the sticks and commuted 40-50 miles each way to work.

The Red Sport is really quick, so even folks that don't think they don't care much for cars light up when they drive those things, so I doubt one can find a used one that doesn't have a dozen or more hole shots under its belt.

Maybe I'm a biased Nissan Fanboy, but I really like the OEM+ look of the Red Sport. Shame that they came with an open diff, terrible steering and problematic turbos that are documented in detail across the internet (hence the terrible resale).

For resale, one thing matters. Perceived reliability.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 09:46 AM
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The Red Sport would be a really stupid choice for an Uber car. It was likely a long distance commuter.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by socketz67
Amounts to roughly 8 cross country trips in a year? Surprised that the driver's seat isn't worn more as the car looks brand new.

76-77 miles per day, so maybe it was used as a Lyft/Uber vehicle, or by someone that lived in the sticks and commuted 40-50 miles each way to work.

The Red Sport is really quick, so even folks that don't think they don't care much for cars light up when they drive those things, so I doubt one can find a used one that doesn't have a dozen or more hole shots under its belt.

Maybe I'm a biased Nissan Fanboy, but I really like the OEM+ look of the Red Sport. Shame that they came with an open diff, terrible steering and problematic turbos that are documented in detail across the internet (hence the terrible resale).

For resale, one thing matters. Perceived reliability.
Me,personally would stay away from 3.0l twin turbo Infiniti in any configuration,including Red sport. If you check Infiniti Q50 forum then is obvious those engines suffer from failing turbos and porus engine block/oil gallery plugs coolant leak issues all the time. Some folks reported those problems at 25000 miles and got very lucky to able fix the issues under manufacturing warranty. But those who's warranty is running out is screwed,its like a playing Russian roulette. No i would stick with old good 3.7 V6.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 09:51 AM
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[QUOTE=Rochester;4338478]The Red Sport would be a really stupid choice for an Uber car. It was likely a long distance Exactly 💯
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 10:27 AM
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Me,personally would stay away from 3.0l twin turbo Infiniti in any configuration,including Red sport. If you check Infiniti Q50 forum then is obvious those engines suffer from failing turbos and porus engine block/oil gallery plugs coolant leak issues all the time. Some folks reported those problems at 25000 miles and got very lucky to able fix the issues under manufacturing warranty. But those who's warranty is running out is screwed,its like a playing Russian roulette. No i would stick with old good 3.7 V6.
Call me old and paranoid, but I'm very wary of turbos in general. Given the choice of boost, I'd much rather have a SC.

These days, they're putting turbos on tiny 3-cyl engines just to bring them *up* to useful. Chevy did this with their Cruze, and is doing it again today with their Trax and Trailblazer. I've driven the last two recently, and wow is that drivetrain garbage!

Back in 1980, Pontiac offered a Turbo Trans/Am based on their 301 small block. It was crap, and the repeated prone to fail. Although the Indy Pace Car Turbo T/A sure was pretty.

Here's a good read: https://www.topspeed.com/turbocharge...anything%20but.


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Originally Posted by Rochester
Call me old and paranoid, but I'm very wary of turbos in general. Given the choice of boost, I'd much rather have a SC.

These days, they're putting turbos on tiny 3-cyl engines just to bring them *up* to useful. Chevy did this with their Cruze, and is doing it again today with their Trax and Trailblazer. I've driven the last two recently, and wow is that drivetrain garbage!

Back in 1980, Pontiac offered a Turbo Trans/Am based on their 301 small block. It was crap. Although the Indy Pace Car Turbo T/A sure was pretty.

And again you are absolutely right supercharger is much more efficient and more safe than turbos and I am talking here about low RPM bandwidth. It's dosent have a turbos lag cause turbos needs exhaust gasses to spin its compressor to give you desired boost/power. Supercharger is just directly powered by engine and thus gives you immediate results. But most important it's ginormous amount of heat that turbos produces that affect your engine and all major components that located near by lifespan and turbos itself also. There is the reason why Ford prefers supercharger in their Mustang.
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Call me old and paranoid, but I'm very wary of turbos in general. Given the choice of boost, I'd much rather have a SC.

These days, they're putting turbos on tiny 3-cyl engines just to bring them *up* to useful. Chevy did this with their Cruze, and is doing it again today with their Trax and Trailblazer. I've driven the last two recently, and wow is that drivetrain garbage!

Back in 1980, Pontiac offered a Turbo Trans/Am based on their 301 small block. It was crap, and the repeated prone to fail. Although the Indy Pace Car Turbo T/A sure was pretty.

Here's a good read: https://www.topspeed.com/turbocharge...anything%20but.
I'll take mine in Smoky and the Bandit black on black

Turbo reliability has came a long way since the 80s. Sadly, the options for powerful NA or supercharged engines is pretty slim. I miss winding my G out to 7500 rpm, but the little 2L in my R feels stronger pretty much any point in the powerband, and gets significantly better mpg too.
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Got this 2019 infiniti Q70 luxe AWD 3.7l sedan on March 31 at Staten Island GMC NY with clean Carfax and personal use 72645 miles on the odometer for 14645 bucks.
Got this 2019 infiniti Q70 luxe AWD 3.7l sedan on March 31 at Staten Island GMC NY with clean Carfax and personal use 72645 miles on the odometer for 14645 bucks. This is the last year 💯 % Japan built. By the way this vehicle,vhen is traded in January 2025 was listed for 19999.00 dollars.

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Anyone see these Slate trucks recently? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64564869/2027-slate-truck-revealed/ I always wondered what happened to basic model pick up trucks and passenger cars from the old days. You used to be able to buy a vehicle with no bells and whistles. Now cars are so damn expensive, buying a new car is pretty much a pipedream for the majority of the population. I like that Slate offers a few options to personalize your truck and will even shop the parts to you to install to keep the costs down. I am definitely interested in a small work truck for going to the dump and generally bumming around town, the is may be an option but definitely would not replace the G. I really like some of the concepts they have on their website.

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Old Apr 26, 2025 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Muck_Man
Anyone see these Skate trucks recently? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...ruck-revealed/ I always wondered what happened to basic model pick up trucks and passenger cars from the old days. You used to be able to buy a vehicle with no bells and whistles. Now cars are so damn expensive, buying a new car is pretty much a pipedream for the majority of the population. I like that Slate offers a few options to personalize your truck and will even shop the parts to you to install to keep the costs down. I am definitely interested in a small work truck for going to the dump and generally bumming around town, the is may be an option but definitely would not replace the G. I really like some of the concepts they have on their website.
I saw the Slate discussed in I believe Car and Driver. I like the basic, somewhat retro look. But that's me coming from a lens that loved the mini trucks of the past. I suspect most will want alot more tech and creature comforts as that's what seems to sell these days.

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Old Apr 26, 2025 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
The Red Sport would be a really stupid choice for an Uber car. It was likely a long distance commuter.
Here in CA, work is often close to where you live and an airport. I've met folks that uber between their commutes to and from work to supplement the high cost of living. There's also car sharing apps. Never used one, but essentially, if you aren't driving the car, someone else is.
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Old Apr 26, 2025 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Call me old and paranoid, but I'm very wary of turbos in general. Given the choice of boost, I'd much rather have a SC.

These days, they're putting turbos on tiny 3-cyl engines just to bring them *up* to useful. Chevy did this with their Cruze, and is doing it again today with their Trax and Trailblazer. I've driven the last two recently, and wow is that drivetrain garbage!

Back in 1980, Pontiac offered a Turbo Trans/Am based on their 301 small block. It was crap, and the repeated prone to fail. Although the Indy Pace Car Turbo T/A sure was pretty.

Here's a good read: https://www.topspeed.com/turbocharge...anything%20but.
We've discussed pumping large amounts of air into tiny displacement engines in the past, and our fear may just be a byproduct of our past. I understand why it needs to be done for efficiency, but am still not a fan as there is no replacement for displacement. There's a reason Toyotas (and Lexus) are ultra reliable. They are basic and almost exclusively naturally aspirated.

That Trans-am promised so much, but the motor was underpowered and unreliable, even for the day. Those guys in their Members Only jackets always tried to race me in my Chevelle, and mostly what they saw was a Birdseye view of my differential pulling away from them. The only Turbo car that got things right was the Buick Grand National/GNX, but GM dumped a truck load of R&D into that car, so I'm not sure how well the business model scaled for the masses.

When I build a motor, it will likely be a VQ37 with a Supercharger. Stillen and Motoiq are in my neck of the woods, so I will likely work with both if they are still around in a few years: https://motoiq.com/category/projects/infiniti/g37s/

Between that time, I may add a Red Sport to my collection. Fully understand all the issues (which drive resale down making them alot more attractive), but that knowledge also allows me to work around the shortcomings; There are a couple of Infiniti techs I follow on the Q50 Reddit sub that explain the root cause of the issues, so this helps. Excessive heat within the turbos is the main issue; unmanaged, their death is imminent.

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Old Apr 26, 2025 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by socketz67
Those guys in their Members Only jackets always tried to race me in my Chevelle, and mostly what they saw was a Birdseye view of my differential pulling away from them. The only Turbo car that got things right was the Buick Grand National/GNX
Personally, I have stories from my stupid youth that align to both those comments about the Chevy and the Buick... humble memories of getting humbled. With hindsight, I'm not exactly proud of those moments, while at the same time they make for good story telling of suburban nonsense with over-powered cars. IDK... simpler times. Simpler cars.

I'm not really interested in the Q50, Red Sport or otherwise. But if you supercharge your G, then you're probably going to need a good DD, and a Red Sport would answer that need very nicely. Assuming you address known issues. Looks like you're researching already.

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Originally Posted by Rochester
Personally, I have stories from my stupid youth that align to both those comments about the Chevy and the Buick... humble memories of getting humbled. With hindsight, I'm not exactly proud of those moments, while at the same time they make for good story telling of suburban nonsense with over-powered cars. IDK... simpler times. Simpler cars.

I'm not really interested in the Q50, Red Sport or otherwise. But if you supercharge your G, then you're probably going to need a good DD, and a Red Sport would answer that need very nicely. Assuming you address known issues. Looks like you're researching already.
What's funny about the muscle cars of that time was that they were straight line performance only. Compared to even low end economy cars today, braking, tires and handling were down right dangerous. Sure, the motor had monstrous torque, but those cars at 90mph were not for the light hearted. And by 70K miles, you needed to rebuild the engine and replace 30% of the chassis components. What was the name of the performance tire back then that everyone used (I think there were only 9-10 tire options total)? The name is on the tip of my tongue. They were "radials" which was state of the art at the time. The French (Michelin) have since advanced performance tire compounds to the point of where you will let go before they will.

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Old Apr 26, 2025 | 06:43 PM
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What's funny about the muscle cars of that time was that they were straight line performance only. Compared to even low end economy cars today, braking, tires and handling were down right dangerous. Sure, the motor had monstrous torque, but those cars at 90mph were not for the light hearted. And by 70K miles, you needed to rebuild the engine and replace 30% of the chassis components. What was the name of the performance tire back then that everyone used (I think there were only 9-10 tire options total)? The name is on the tip of my tongue. They were "radials" which was state of the art at the time. The French (Michelin) have since advanced performance tire compounds to the point of where you will let go before they will.
I think it's BF Goodrich made them. But first ever radial tire was developed by Michelin in 1946.
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