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I saw the same thing yesterday in a different article and thought of you. Fortunately, the article I read did not mention the lack of a manual transmission though. That sucks! But your article did mention the possibility of a 400 hp high performance version. Interesting because everything I have seen says a high performance version would only be about 350 hp. I also noticed those stupid sliding calipers- even up front. Here is to hoping the high performance version is a true performance car and has a stick shift.
I just hope the mentioning of 400hp isn't based on the rumors that the head of the R division long ago refuted and there is a possibility of an uber hi-po golf. Sadly, I have a feeling if you want an MQB with 400 hp the 55K RS3 is going to be your only option.
Considering the TTS and Porsche Macan are both MQB based and currently have 4 piston Brembo brakes that are a direct bolt on to the existing R, it seems kinda silly VW didn't use those instead of sliding calipers.
The 4-door AWD/RWD manual transmission shopping list keeps getting shorter and shorter.
When we got into the paddock he came up to me and told me he followed me because my car sounded amazing and wanted to know what I did to it. He thought I twin turbo'd it.
That's quite a compliment, You must have been proud! Just out of curiosity, are you running Fast intentions?
That V8 does not sound bad, but it is definitely rpm limited. Our cars with a good exhaust and headers sound amazing, partly because they do scream well at higher rpms.
I was doing a track day about 2 years ago when a Shelby GT350 caught up to me. I kept giving him the wave by to pass me, but he stayed behind me for almost two laps. I thought he was having problems with his car because he should have been a lot faster than me on the straights. When we got into the paddock he came up to me and told me he followed me because my car sounded amazing and wanted to know what I did to it. He thought I twin turbo'd it.
Stock form, yes about 6500 RPM. You can get a tune to make it go up at around 7100 RPM. But I definitely agree, the VQ37s are really rev happy and it's fun at times but the torque is really limited for me personally. I'm going to sound like a grandpa, but I think the stock exhaust on the G37 sounds more appealing to me than the aftermarket ones I've heard, and even then I'm not a huge fan of the V6 noise. I had a same thing happen to me as well with the G when a guy asked me about my exhaust when I did a cold start, and he thought it was an aftermarket exhaust. The only V6 I find appealing to listen to is the VR6 from Volkswagen back in the day. Sound was similar to an inline 6, and was godly
I just hope the mentioning of 400hp isn't based on the rumors that the head of the R division long ago refuted and there is a possibility of an uber hi-po golf. Sadly, I have a feeling if you want an MQB with 400 hp the 55K RS3 is going to be your only option.
Considering the TTS and Porsche Macan are both MQB based and currently have 4 piston Brembo brakes that are a direct bolt on to the existing R, it seems kinda silly VW didn't use those instead of sliding calipers.
The 4-door AWD/RWD manual transmission shopping list keeps getting shorter and shorter.
The RS3 is definitely not a bad option and I think the next generation could even handle well. Do the TTS and Macan still use cheap sliding caliper rear brakes? I just looked up the TTS brakes on the Audi website and they are not terribly specific about the rear brakes, but if memory serves me correctly, they are the same size rotor as the RS3 which uses a sliding rear caliper and an amazing 8 piston front caliper?!? The fact that those Brembos would bolt up to a Golf R is a good sign. Now here is to hoping your article was right about 400 hp in the high performance model and they decide to keep the manual. (Fingers crossed)
Originally Posted by TheDevilsG
That's quite a compliment, You must have been proud! Just out of curiosity, are you running Fast intentions?
I was surprised to say the least, especially since he was driving a GT350 which has to be one of the best sounding cars with the flat plane crank. I have DC headers, Z1 cats, and Stillen exhaust. (The Z1 intake plenum and Z1 intakes don't hurt the sound either)
Originally Posted by Joyryde
Stock form, yes about 6500 RPM. You can get a tune to make it go up at around 7100 RPM. But I definitely agree, the VQ37s are really rev happy and it's fun at times but the torque is really limited for me personally. I'm going to sound like a grandpa, but I think the stock exhaust on the G37 sounds more appealing to me than the aftermarket ones I've heard, and even then I'm not a huge fan of the V6 noise. I had a same thing happen to me as well with the G when a guy asked me about my exhaust when I did a cold start, and he thought it was an aftermarket exhaust. The only V6 I find appealing to listen to is the VR6 from Volkswagen back in the day. Sound was similar to an inline 6, and was godly
The torque is limited in stock form for sure. However, if you do all the bolt ons with a good tune and change your rear gears, you will never complain about torque again. I have to switch down to my 91 octane map with my winter tires just so I don't spin through the first 4 gears when getting on the highway.
I agree about the VR6 if you mean the last generation R32. That engine sounded amazing stock. Unfortunately it was only bolted to a DCT. But that engine and the brushed aluminum trim in that car (that looked like it came out of a Bentley) were awesome. The rest of the car- not quite the same caliber.
A buddy of mine had a Corrado Vr6 back in the day. Loved that sound. I believe the Vr6 and the Vq both share a 60' degree angle design. I've always thought this is the reason our engines ( and the vr6) both sound so unique in comparison to others .
They do sound different but there is a similarity that i believe they both have and is very hard for me to explain... ill try though. If a car said Vrrrroooooom , both these engines roll the Rs lol. Or at least that is how it sounds to me
A buddy of mine had a Corrado Vr6 back in the day. Loved that sound. I believe the Vr6 and the Vq both share a 60' degree angle design. I've always thought this is the reason our engines ( and the vr6) both sound so unique in comparison to others .
They do sound different but there is a similarity that i believe they both have and is very hard for me to explain... ill try though. If a car said Vrrrroooooom , both these engines roll the Rs lol. Or at least that is how it sounds to me
The VQ Nissan engine does have a 60 degree cylinder angle in the "V," but the VR6 is quite the opposite. It has a 15 degree angle, almost an inline engine because the engineers were challenged with designing a V6 engine that would take up about the same space as the 4 cylinder engine previously used in the GTI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine
I stand corrected then. Damn 15... Sad they are favoring 4 banger turbos, that engine really could sing a gorgeous tune. It was probably the only thing i ever liked about vw (and the corrado of course).
The torque is limited in stock form for sure. However, if you do all the bolt ons with a good tune and change your rear gears, you will never complain about torque again. I have to switch down to my 91 octane map with my winter tires just so I don't spin through the first 4 gears when getting on the highway.
I agree about the VR6 if you mean the last generation R32. That engine sounded amazing stock. Unfortunately it was only bolted to a DCT. But that engine and the brushed aluminum trim in that car (that looked like it came out of a Bentley) were awesome. The rest of the car- not quite the same caliber.
I got a ride in a G37 with bolt ons/tune and it just felt almost the same as a stock 7AT (maybe he just needed to change the gears since I heard it makes a difference on here) but a hell of a lot louder. Sounded like a cow mooing for me, still traumatized to this day. I've read some articles and watched youtube videos of Mk 1 Golfs with a VR6 swap and some used the Audi TT's manual transmission which would require more work but still possible to make run. But man, that was a good sound. I just remember another V6, don't know if the US ever got the Alfa Romeo GTV6s but the V6 engines in those sound good as well. Sounds more mechanical, with swagger
Originally Posted by TheDevilsG
A buddy of mine had a Corrado Vr6 back in the day. Loved that sound. I believe the Vr6 and the Vq both share a 60' degree angle design. I've always thought this is the reason our engines ( and the vr6) both sound so unique in comparison to others .
They do sound different but there is a similarity that i believe they both have and is very hard for me to explain... ill try though. If a car said Vrrrroooooom , both these engines roll the Rs lol. Or at least that is how it sounds to me
Corrados are beautiful, just has a bad image in Europe because they were driven by bandit thugs. I believe the sound you mean is a V6 growl but also an inline 6 humming 4DRZ did his homework, the VR6 is almost practically an inline motor. You also wish the Corrado came in RWD instead of the FWD? I'm not against FWD, just wish they would have at least had options since it was a sports car.
I got a ride in a G37 with bolt ons/tune and it just felt almost the same as a stock 7AT.
Corrados are beautiful, just has a bad image in Europe because they were driven by bandit thugs. I believe the sound you mean is a V6 growl but also an inline 6 humming 4DRZ did his homework, the VR6 is almost practically an inline motor. You also wish the Corrado came in RWD instead of the FWD? I'm not against FWD, just wish they would have at least had options since it was a sports car.
That G37 had a bad tune and mods if it felt like stock. My car sounds and feels nothing at all like stock. The 7AT was probably part of the problem.
I remember the engineering feat when the VR6 came out because I was a big GTI fan. The Corrado would never be RWD because it was based on the FWD GTI. Same issue with the car before the Corrado, the Scirocco.
The RS3 is definitely not a bad option and I think the next generation could even handle well. Do the TTS and Macan still use cheap sliding caliper rear brakes? I just looked up the TTS brakes on the Audi website and they are not terribly specific about the rear brakes, but if memory serves me correctly, they are the same size rotor as the RS3 which uses a sliding rear caliper and an amazing 8 piston front caliper?!? The fact that those Brembos would bolt up to a Golf R is a good sign. Now here is to hoping your article was right about 400 hp in the high performance model and they decide to keep the manual. (Fingers crossed)
The TTS/RS, S3/RS3 and R/GTI (with performance pack) all use the same vented rear brakes with single piston sliders. I get that from an aesthetic perspective fixed piston brakes are vastly preferable, but with the front brakes doing most of the work, it isn't going to impact performance. You aren't going to get enough pad deflection to make a difference in pedal feel or get them hot enough to fade--the fronts will cook first. Besides, I'd wager that piston count aside, the pads on a single piston caliper have just as much surface area as a 2 piston opposed setup so you're not losing swept area. But it does indeed look cheap.
Most people shy away from the TTRS and RS3 brakes because the 370mm rotors are so expensive and instead go with the 4 piston setup off either the TTS or Macan which can be had for around a grand. And in the case of the Macan, they use the same backing plate as the STI and Evo, so there are a ton of pad options.
Nonetheless, I'm kinda surprised VW is going to a 2 piston slider when they have existing Brembo options in inventory. And that concludes our lesson on MK7 brakes
It seems to me that the Honda E coupe concept was inspired by the corrado (if by accident or on purpose, who knows). When i first saw it i couldn't help think to myself that Honda made a cooler new Golf design than VW did lol
Anyhow ill end my corrado thoughts here before i derail this thread lol
Finally that bad a$s engine in the most beautiful 3 series ever. I wouldn't even be angry when I'd have to work on it eventually. Someone put one in an E36, but I always found the E36 disgusting to look at.
The TTS/RS, S3/RS3 and R/GTI (with performance pack) all use the same vented rear brakes with single piston sliders. I get that from an aesthetic perspective fixed piston brakes are vastly preferable, but with the front brakes doing most of the work, it isn't going to impact performance. You aren't going to get enough pad deflection to make a difference in pedal feel or get them hot enough to fade--the fronts will cook first. Besides, I'd wager that piston count aside, the pads on a single piston caliper have just as much surface area as a 2 piston opposed setup so you're not losing swept area. But it does indeed look cheap.
Most people shy away from the TTRS and RS3 brakes because the 370mm rotors are so expensive and instead go with the 4 piston setup off either the TTS or Macan which can be had for around a grand. And in the case of the Macan, they use the same backing plate as the STI and Evo, so there are a ton of pad options.
Nonetheless, I'm kinda surprised VW is going to a 2 piston slider when they have existing Brembo options in inventory. And that concludes our lesson on MK7 brakes
I'm not concerned about any of that. 1 piston sliding calipers mean I need to completely remove the caliper in order to change the brake pads for a track day. I would much rather have access out of the top of the calipers with two easy to remove pins, like our Akebono brakes.
Originally Posted by TheDevilsG
It seems to me that the Honda E coupe concept was inspired by the corrado (if by accident or on purpose, who knows). When i first saw it i couldn't help think to myself that Honda made a cooler new Golf design than VW did lol
Anyhow ill end my corrado thoughts here before i derail this thread lol
You really think that looks like a Corrado? I think the intention was for it to look like an updated version of the 1st Civic. The Corrado is more of a coupe/fastback design than hatchback.
Originally Posted by Joyryde
Speaking of all sorts of engine swaps, this would be an amazing replacement I could live with and drive with for the rest of my life:
Finally that bad a$s engine in the most beautiful 3 series ever. I wouldn't even be angry when I'd have to work on it eventually. Someone put one in an E36, but I always found the E36 disgusting to look at.
I agree that the E46 is definitely easier on the eyes. One of my track buddies has a friend who has a black E46 M3 that has a big V8 in it and an even bigger rear spoiler- looks like a park bench, but provides tons of actual downforce.
Do the TTS and Macan still use cheap sliding caliper rear brakes? I just looked up the TTS brakes on the Audi website and they are not terribly specific about the rear brakes, but if memory serves me correctly, they are the same size rotor as the RS3 which uses a sliding rear caliper and an amazing 8 piston front caliper?!? The fact that those Brembos would bolt up to a Golf R is a good sign. Now here is to hoping your article was right about 400 hp in the high performance model and they decide to keep the manual. (Fingers crossed)
