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Infiniti High Performance G - What Top 5 things would you want?

Old Aug 3, 2016 | 12:06 PM
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1. 7-Speed Manual
2. Quaife Differential
3. Super light weight forged wheels. 23lbs max for 20 inch wheels
4. 2-piece rotors for even lighter corners
5. Carbon fiber driveshaft
6. All mated to the 3.0TT
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 01:33 PM
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Aka gtr with front wheels disconnected from tranny
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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I wouldn't want more than six gears in my manual transmission. I find even that many to be annoying, especially with the torque available from a 3.0 TT.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by slartibartfast
I wouldn't want more than six gears in my manual transmission. I find even that many to be annoying, especially with the torque available from a 3.0 TT.
7th gear is strictly for highway driving.

Its kinda nice to be doing 80mph and only be spinning at 2,000 rpms like the Corvette does.

Either the 7th gear, or actually make 6th gear double its tallness.

Current 6MT at 80mph spins at 3,000.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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It was implied but I'll be explicit and say the final drive ratio would be lowered as necessary to utilize the 6-speed. The Corvette loafs at 80 mph as a result of GM avoiding gas guzzler tax on it.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 06:56 PM
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Good question. I think we already have an advantage over the C63 and IS-F with the manual transmission and seats. (I like the adjustable side bolsters for street/track) That being said:

1. Exhaust that sounds good and more power like the new twin turbo V6 with 400hp.
2. Lighter, wider, and better looking wheels & tires
3. Oil & power steering coolers (do 1 track day and you will understand)
4. B&M or similar short shifter (with accompanying Jsolo clutch spring)
5. Real suspension and sway bars so it handles better and sits lower
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jgronline
I'm not in the market for a $100K car so a V8 or a 4 door GTR is not what I want.
1. Smaller. My dream is a 135i size 4 door.
2. Lighter with a target of no more than 3200lbs.
3. Turbo 4 cylinder. Target 350HP. It should still be mounted north-south too.
4. RWD still but stiffen up the rear diff so it eliminates wheel hop.
5. 6 speed manual or DCT. No slushbox option.
So you want a stripped and lightened s3 for 40k? haha getting under 3500lbs for a sport sedan gets a gold metal these days. The 135i itself weights just a hair under 3400lbs.
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 07:34 PM
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I really think all infiniti had to do to really knock the g out of the park was take a sport model and bump engine displacement to 4.0 like the frontier has and possibly go direct injection. They probably could crank out another 50-100 whp and some torque to boot. For the money the g is a pretty damn good car but definitely lacking in power. The transmission should be a dual clutch though and shift more sporty.
It doesn't have a dual clutch, but they kind of already did make a 400 hp G in the red sport. I'd rather have twin turbos than more displacement. Turbo cars have more personality somehow.
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 08:14 PM
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If you are referring to the turbo spool up punch then yes they have personality although I have owned and worked on many turbo setups and the NA route is nice in it's own respect. I would rather 400whp NA than 400 turbo. Is the new red sport motor direct injection? Too lazy to look
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by brizey
It doesn't have a dual clutch, but they kind of already did make a 400 hp G in the red sport. I'd rather have twin turbos than more displacement. Turbo cars have more personality somehow.
I think the turbos have so much more tuning potential for more power too. Then again, the upgrade in performance and sound on my G37S sedan with just headers, cats, and exhaust has been pretty remarkable and having a higher redline than a turbo car is nice too.
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 02:42 PM
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Being turbo has nothing to do with redline. Case in point boosted hondas
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 4doorfury
Being turbo has nothing to do with redline. Case in point boosted hondas
Sure it does. What boosted factory Honda are you talking about? Even the new Civic Type R makes max hp at 6500 rpms. All the Hondas, M3's, Subarus, etc. without a turbo have a higher redline.

Look at the M3- it had an 8400 rpm redline in the last generation as an N/A V8. Now it goes back to a straight six, but twin turbo and the redline drops almost 1,000 rpms. Or compare a BRZ to a WRX. The BRZ N/A redline is significantly higher than the turbo WRX.
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 03:18 PM
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You are sort of correct but are missing the reasoning behind this.

The turbos on these cars are undersized therefor can not keep up at higher rpms than those cars redlines. Most consumers are impressed by the instant spool of these smaller turbos that increase low rpm torque. Turbo only dictates rpm by size of the compressor and turbine housings.

I was not referring to factory turbo cars I was simply stating a turbo car can still rev to the moon if wanted, this is just not how the factories produce them because then the cars lose driveability.
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 08:37 PM
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That's my point- we are talking about production cars. It is much more likely to have a high rpm N/A car compared to a high RPM turbo car from the factory. Sure you could bolt a huge turbo to any car that only works at high rpms, but it would be a dog for 90% of daily driving and would never get past an automotive engineer.
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Old Aug 5, 2016 | 09:18 PM
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I still have to argue that it isn't the point. We are not talking production car here. The title of the thread is top 5 things you would want lol. I am stating if infiniti upped the size of the turbos they chose then the motor could in essence rev out higher. I assure you this new 3.0 tt won't be able to make much more peak power than it does factory because the turbos are probably right at peak efficiency.
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