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True reason the sport package sedan did not come with the Akebono BBK?

Old Oct 2, 2015 | 10:44 PM
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True reason the sport package sedan did not come with the Akebono BBK?

Was it strictly and completely a cost saving measure? Was there any other reasoning behind this decision by Infiniti?

I know the awd also comes with a much thinner rear sway bar, which enthusiasts are upset about, but I read it was a safety measure as it helps prevent oversteer in snow conditions, and that was the reasoning Infiniti put the thinner rear sway bar in the awd G37. Is there anything like this, that has been talked about for the lack of the Akebono bbk being included on the sedan awd Or was it strictly a cost saving measure by Infiniti?
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 10:55 PM
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Only someone involved w/ the design & packaging of the car would be able to answer that one. The coupes always get the nod when it comes to performance features, hence no IPL Sedan.
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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 06:20 AM
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I suspect cost. But that doesn't explain why they didn't offer it as an upgrade option. Good point on the sways and oversteer, but it doesn't explain why the front sways are weak, too.

As Brad just said, only someone on the inside can truly answer that question. I think when it comes to decisions on car production, there are cost factors that can only be explained end-to-end, because all by themselves it doesn't make any sense.

Looking at your posts, it seems you've been doing research on a used G37xS. Should you buy one, and if you only do one mod to that car ever, make it a pair of aftermarket swaybars.

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I'd imagine infiniti's market research showed that AWD buyers wouldn't want to pay the incremental cost fir the RWD S hardware.

The x doest get the faster ratio steering, summer tires or stiffer shocks either.

BMW x-drive offerings at the time were the same in that they didn't get the suspension upgrades of the RWD.
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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 11:18 AM
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I suspect cost. But that doesn't explain why they didn't offer it as an upgrade option. Good point on the sways and oversteer, but it doesn't explain why the front sways are weak, too.

As Brad just said, only someone on the inside can truly answer that question. I think when it comes to decisions on car production, there are cost factors that can only be explained end-to-end, because all by themselves it doesn't make any sense.

Looking at your posts, it seems you've been doing research on a used G37xS. Should you buy one, and if you only do one mod to that car ever, make it a pair of aftermarket swaybars.
I swapped my rear sway on my 37XS with a coupe S sway, feel that it made a difference.

Rochester you mentioned the front sways are weak? I thought the front sways were the same on the XS as the S coupe? I have one from the coupe and the thickness is the same so I didn't bother installing it?
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Rochester you mentioned the front sways are weak?
In comparison to aftermarket sway bars. Poorly worded, on my part.
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My 2011 S sedan came with the Akebono brakes. I get the impression the OP is talking about the xS sedan. You gotta be specific about these things.
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Originally Posted by slartibartfast
My 2011 S sedan came with the Akebono brakes. I get the impression the OP is talking about the xS sedan. You gotta be specific about these things.
He did, just not in the thread title

Originally Posted by mjnoles1
Was it strictly and completely a cost saving measure? Was there any other reasoning behind this decision by Infiniti?

I know the awd also comes with a much thinner rear sway bar, which enthusiasts are upset about, but I read it was a safety measure as it helps prevent oversteer in snow conditions, and that was the reasoning Infiniti put the thinner rear sway bar in the awd G37. Is there anything like this, that has been talked about for the lack of the Akebono bbk being included on the sedan awd Or was it strictly a cost saving measure by Infiniti?
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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i did the akebono swap on my G37xS sedan. was super easy, OEM fitment

it's for sale now ...
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Old Oct 9, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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Just throwing this out there, dont flame me lol

Could they have possibly left the Akebono off the AWD sedan as it is safer to have less powerful brakes in the snow for daily driving?
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Originally Posted by mjnoles1
Just throwing this out there, dont flame me lol

Could they have possibly left the Akebono off the AWD sedan as it is safer to have less powerful brakes in the snow for daily driving?
Actually the stopping power is pretty similar (at least w/ the OEM pads), where the Akebonos shine is in prolonged use like tracking where the regular brakes overheat and will fade, the Akebonos will stay cooler and perform better.
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Actually the stopping power is pretty similar (at least w/ the OEM pads), where the Akebonos shine is in prolonged use like tracking where the regular brakes overheat and will fade, the Akebonos will stay cooler and perform better.
REALLY? So if someone does not track a car and just utilizes the car as their daily driver, both brakes stop similarly? In an emergency stopping situation, both brakes will stop around the same length?

I ask as I read somewhere how well the awd performs and it does not take a lot away from the regular rwd, the only place it does takes away is the additional stopping distance and they thought the reason for that was the sport package comes with bigger brakes.
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Originally Posted by mjnoles1
REALLY? So if someone does not track a car and just utilizes the car as their daily driver, both brakes stop similarly? In an emergency stopping situation, both brakes will stop around the same length?
For the most part, yes. If you look at the stopping distances of the 08 G35S and the 09+ g37S, the stopping distances are almost exactly the same, and the cars have identical size and brand of tires.

The sport brakes are going to really shine in repeated use. An emergency stop? Probably doesn't matter. 15 70-0 stops? The sport brakes will fade less and stop shorter.

Tires probably play a bigger role than brakes in emergency stopping distances.

The stiffer opposed piston calipers will also flex less, and should provide better pedal feel. And there is an abundance of aftermarket pad options since the brakes are shared with the 370Z.


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I ask as I read somewhere how well the awd performs and it does not take a lot away from the regular rwd, the only place it does takes away is the additional stopping distance and they thought the reason for that was the sport package comes with bigger brakes.
The stopping distance is probably the closest between the AWD and RWD. It's handling that the RWD, particularly in S configuration, is going to be way ahead of the AWD in.
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Originally Posted by mjnoles1
REALLY? So if someone does not track a car and just utilizes the car as their daily driver, both brakes stop similarly? In an emergency stopping situation, both brakes will stop around the same length?
That's right. As a DD, they're just for looks. You'll never know the difference.

But man do they look good.
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Old Oct 9, 2015 | 10:02 PM
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First thing to do if you want to decrease your stopping distance, you need to get "sticker" tires. Think about it, you can have the best brakes in the world, but if your on very hard rubber you will take longer to stop than a softer tire. This reminds me of the MCM video with the FRS and BRZ or maybe they both were the same idr.



different part, but basically same concept.

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