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The 2011 is advertised as a base/sport. Is that common or should it be one or the other?

 

Hmmm...I am going to have to agree to disagree. Seen thousands of off-lease cars that have been in impeccable shape. However, that's not to say there arent some that have been abused.

I think you have to just look at each individual car and also the reputation of the dealer (as to what they keep on their lot versus take to auction).

If it were me, the only way I would get a pre 2010 would be with sport (to avoid the nonsport front bumper). Brings back memories of the tranny I had in my 2007...and how I miss it.

 

I've noticed that some of the cars that are advertised as sport are because the dealership considers it to be a sporty car and has nothing to do with the sports package, which annoys me.

 

Base/Sport (or Journey/Sport) means a RWD model with an automatic transmission and the Sport Package.

The Sport Package is only meaningful if you get the RWD model, regardless of AT or 6MT. In this configuration, you get the big brakes, the stiffer front/rear sway bars, sport-tuned struts and steering, staggered rims and a limited slip rear differential. These things combine to turn the G37S Sedan into a potent little sport sedan. Otherwise, it's still a fine car, but the edge is seriously dulled. Get the Sport Package on an AWD model, and all you get are flappy paddles, sport seats and bragging rights.

Hope this helps.

As for actually finding a used 6MT Sedan... that's something you need a lot of patience for, and flexibility on interior/exterior colors.

That's very true. You'll also see a lot of adverts representing the car as a manual transmission just because of the slapstick. The people who write these ads aren't necessarily car people.

 

I just went through a similar exercise. Ended up with a 2010 RWD Journey/Prem/Nav/Sport with ~20000 miles for about 29k, which is in line with what you are finding. I personally don't sweat the last $1000 or so...its in the noise for used car prices.

The lease vs. one owner thing can go both ways. Yes, people with leased cars know they don't "own" them, but really, people's habits are people's habits. My brother serial leases cars (physician--leases through his practice) and he takes basically perfect care of them. The up side is they are not usually dumping a bad car like a single owner might, but instead just moving on to their next car.

My car is not perfect. Small tear in one of the rear armrests (I mean small, like 1/4"), some seat belt buckle dents in the metal door trim, and a few marks on the rear bumper (trunk loading marks). But it seems to be mechanically perfect, the rims are perfect, etc.

My last car had navigation and I will never get another one without it. I am not going to dink around with a mount, etc. to be able to use a portable or phone, then end up with a dinky screen. I use it even when I am not getting routing...just checking how the roads are laid out in a less than familiar area. I probably use routing about once a week on average. I guess if you live in a small area it would not be as useful, but in big urban areas you tend to go new places all the time.

 

Good info but I'm still a bit confused. The Carfax and the Vin lookup showed this car as base/sport. When I build the 2012 G with a Sport package on the Infiniti site, the Nav package and the luxury package is a requirement.

The 2011 that I am looking at I believe has the luxury package but not he Nav package. It doesn't have the paddle shifters either. It looks to have the 18 inch rims but it is not badged with an S in the rear with the G37 either.

 

No red S badge, and no flappy paddles on that AT car, then the 2011 you're looking at doesn't have the Sport Package. It's that simple. Without the AWD, the car you're looking at is a Journey with the Premium package.

Premium Package become a requirement when getting the Sport Package since 2010. Sounds like today Nav is a requirement, too. And the 6MT is considered a separate model G, which has all that by default. Again, since 2010. The real interesting year was 2009, when you could configure packages more to your liking, including a 4-wheel active steering option.

What you're building on the Infiniti site is a 2013. Better build it quick... the Q50 is right around the corner.

 

I believe in order to get a RWD 7AT w/ the sport package it has to be a Journey, the Base doesn't have that option, at least that's the way it used to be.

 

I suggest u to hold on for a 6mt. if you are getting the 7at, do an extended test drive. because the 7at in the g37 is one of the more unrefined AT out there. make sure you like it before you settle with the 7AT

 

That is still actually an option in the European market, not sure why they took it off of the North American market though.

The models are Journey, AWD, and 6MT sport. I think that Carfax considers the Journey line up to be the "base", although I'm not sure if they still consider it a base if there are options added on.

 

I'm feeling neutral on the mt. It would be sweet to drive a stick again, 12 yrs has been a long time. On the other hand, the big boss can't drive a manual and she may need the car time to time or in an emergency.

The car being such a great combo of lux and performance makes it easy to accept the above. Didn't know that the 7AT was unrefined. Kanariya can you elaborate a bit please?

I like the advice on holding out for a 2010+, nav and a sport package. I'm on my iPhone a lot- I would love to have it integrated w ride.

Taking a look this Friday at a 2010, XS, 30k miles, 1 owner, AT, sedan listed at 29,999 with the local Infiniti dealer. They have quite a few pre owned cars on the lot. I hoping that this + it being a 3 day weekend, they'll want to play ball.

Is the X going to be harder to lower, I plan to drop by about and inch.

I'm in sales and I was expecting car guys to be hounding me once they knew I was interested in buying. Some places won't even call me back. I feel like they are pretty firm on these prices - not wanting to negotiate much. Is this a higher end dealer thing?

If negotiating a purchase from an Infiniti dealership, is there anything extra that I should be able to negotiate in? Ie: a couple oil changes, anything re: warranty

 

Car sales are the same all over, whether Chevy or Infiniti, used or new. Everything comes down to dealership policies and sales staff motivation.

First you wanted a 6MT, then a RWD AT non-Sport, and now you're looking at the AWD. These really are significant differences on what looks like the same car, so it seems the only thing you're solid on is that you want a G37 Sedan. Oh, and Journey=Base. Same thing.

My best advice is this: the first step in taking charge of a car sales situation is to know exactly what you want. Once you figure that out, step two is knowing everything you can know about the car, more than the salesperson does. Fortunately, you've got time and a car forum available to assist in both of those endeavors.

 

for that price $29,999 it should be CPO (certified pre owned). You should still be able to get ~5% reduction in price at most dealers. Infiniti is usually more willing to deal than bmw or audi, especially with the new Q50 coming out this summer.

 

BLamb is right.

Also, CPO is a $900 fee that dealerships pay into Corporate for the listing. That's $900 that's then pushed directly on top of the cost to you.

 

When I got mine in 2010, I recall people getting NEW 2010 Journey's for that price (probably with no added options, but still....)

my guess is it's worth ~$24-25k, max. Check edmunds, kbb, etc. But I generally find Edmunds more to my liking.