Perhaps I'm a bit cynical....all the engineers need to do is get the car through its warranty period. BMW is selling convenience....and trips for service are inconvenient. Sorry, I personally experienced the results of the extended cycle oil changes....that's why I'm driving an Infiniti.

To your point, I would think anyone practicing long change cycles would want to have their oil analyzed at each change if they plan to keep the car for a long time. It was very revealing when several on this board shared the results of their oil anaylsis. Of course at the other extreme....we have Infiniti with its 3,750 mile recommendation...which seems too short.....though validated by oil analysis, especially if you're using esther based oil.

 

I'm sure that a car company would depend on repeat customers and good word of mouth for future sales. I understand that BMW is selling convenience, but you are telling me that Jaguar, BMW, Audi, VW, Porsche, MB, Lamborghini, Acura, Ford, and a number of other manufacturers are all conspiring to sell convenience and make sure their cars just make it out of the warranty period by offering oil change intervals of 7500-15,000 miles? It is what it is. You will never go wrong by going by what the manufacturer tells you to do, especially if you have everything documented and have a warranty claim later on.

 

You are correct...with regards to the warranty. I don't think 7,500 or even 10,000 mile changes are unreasonable...just question changes at 15,000 to 17,000 miles, again based on personal experience. To each his own, but if I were to spend $75,000 on a new BMW, something I strongly considered, I would elect to spend an extra $100 per year to change the oil at 7,500 mile intravels.

 

We've sold 6 G25's so far since the release. They really have not gained much in popularity at least in our area. Most of the female buyers (no offense) which this car is really suppose to attract tend to buy the EX instead and most of the 328 trade ins have been steering towards the EX which imo is a better car than the G25. Just from over this past weekend and taking in the comparison that my customers thought when they saw the G25, they were not happy. The G25 needs to come with some of the extra features like a premium package that includes the memory seats. While Infiniti's goal with this car is to try keep the G25 as basic as possible, it could do better if it included not only the Premium package but also included the Navigation package. These are just some of the items that many buyers actually want on their cars. I mean even when you compare the BMW 328 to the G25 these options are made available. To make this car more competitive in the market and while I know this is the first year or test year, the options should be made available either as a package or a separate add on.

 

I said this earlier in this thread. My wife would never buy this car without the premium on the NAV package. Infiniti needs to give the consumer the option to pay for those added premium packages.

 

You are right, and I can't fault that kind of thinking sir. Now that you put it that way, I'd probably do the same thing.

 

Fail car is fail. This is a terrible concept, people should just buy a nissan if they can't take on the 35k+ price tag, not have this degrading option to the G series. What is infiniti corporate thinking??

 

Samething that BMW, Lexus, and Mercedes are thinking with the 328i, IS250, and C300?

 

The price spread is much different though. People can get a year end G37 sedan premium for like 33 if you negotiate right, so whats the point? I think everything was fine as is tbh.

 

Yeah, I got my year end 2010 with more options than what the 2011 G25 is going for. I agree that the G25 should have an even lower price and also allow for more options to be added.

 

It could also be that the 2010s are year end models. I wonder if we'll see less flexibility on the 2011 G37s and more flexibility on price for the G25s.

 

we always have flexibility... but it's all about supply and demand.

 

I highly doubt that... You are going to see equal amounts of flexibility between both the G25 and the G37.

 

Except, a Maxima can easily cost more than a G.

 

that was the same thing with a loaded Altima costing more than the Maxima (before the 2009 redesign)....

that is where the selling point of coming ino a luxury atmosphere will outsell going to a nissan dealership for service. and also AWD vs non-AWD which is important in the northeast.