Lets drive one and see tests before we come to those conclusions. Not all of us want a STI/WRX type ride that you need back surgery after taking a 30 to 60 min ride either. Very harsh/stiff ride/noisy. I will give up some handling to have a nicer ride, My opinion. On the roads, at least here in the NY city area, you can't use most of the cars handling anyway, unless you want to get big traffic tickets.

 

Nissan has had turbos for years.. GT-R ?? The issue with a turbo is so that they can get higher EPA numbers. In real world driving a Turbo 4 cylinder car gets gas mileage same as a naturally aspirated V6, sometimes worse. Look RDX 4cyl Turbo SUV.. get same or worse gas mileage than the EX35 V6 SUV. Not to mention the 4cyl sounds worse/not as refined as the V6.

 

Agreed. If you want the new coupe wait a few years, when pricing/incentives go up. Never buy the 1st year, when demand and the dealers can gauge you the most. Plus if any issues by year 2 or 3 or beyond they will have fixed.

Any of these cars, if you are buying it to own and will keep it 5 or 10 yrs.. buy the Manufacturer backed extended warranty, no 3rd parties. If you lease for 2 to 3 yrs then no big deal.

 

Got to sit in the All New Coupe at the NY Auto show. They had electric turned on inside so you could play around with dash/GPS displays, etc. Tech inside is nice, way better than our current 2008 to 2015 G coupes. Interior is even nicer, nice touches. Overall, I still think the current coupe looks better on the outside, I can tell it's an Infiniti easier than new one. New coupe has a lot of hints of other cars.. where as old G35 coupe and current G37 has more of it's own styling? Can't wait to test drive one and see.

 

i daily drove mine for 5 years with no back surgery. its pretty much the same as my G's sport suspension.
i do have the MR, with Bilstein struts and Eibach springs, so i cant comment on the regular one.

saw a video on the new interior/screens. looks pretty cool, but in addition to not wanting to own a first year car with so many changes, i'd also hold out for Android Auto ....

 

It's pretty bad.. almost looks like a chrysler 200 from the rear.

 

In my post I already stated the water pump issue and it is a cheap fix. You just need to do it BEFORE the failure hence it can be PREVENTED. And you see even after the failure it is a 2.5K job.

Where as the gasket issue can NOT be prevented and seems the fix is around 3K. That is fcking ridiculous and infiniti's ignorance on the situation is beyond me. All you can do is to is to hope for the best.


Also Wrx is not bad as a daily driver. Although I prefer my g37, the wrx is a comfortable ride for everyday driving(Evo's are diffrerent I believe).

 

EVO is comparable to the G37 w/sport suspension.

I'd say it's a *more* comfortable driving experience, because the Evo has an auto climate control that actually works as it should.

Anyone with a Q50: how are the climate controls?

 

I've always found the Climate Controls in the Nissan/Infinities to work properly. You start the car and its 40° out side. Set the Auto to 80°. Car warms up, the climate control slowly warms up to 80. Then it drops down the fan speed to maintain it at 80. Works the same for the AC. The Honda/Acura ones don't work that way. It seems like you set the temature and it just blast what ever air is in there at full speed instead of building up to it. I don't want 40° air blowing in my face until the car warms up.

 

As a former 2012 E92 M3 owner and 2010 S4 owner and now current 2012 S4 owner, I'm going to have to disagree with some of the things you've stated.

I've been on both forums M3's and Audi's and the number of DCT issues are small compared to the vast majority of cars - also its typically people complaining on forums and not the majority of owners - the primary issues with the DCT's are the megatronics which can be replaced with a $400 kit. Early on Audi replaced entire transmissions but those days are long gone. Now a simple kit is all thats needed and that issue stems from the fluid eating away at the board which is immersed in the transmission fluid.

As per the S5 having issues that engine hasn't been in production since 2012 with the solution being a walnut cleaning - not sure of the cost but in alot of cases that I've seen Audi has covered those under warranty. Personally my 2012 S4 had its water pump and thermostat replaced as part of a recall campaign (and a new engine during the recall - but thats another story). Newer cars 2013 and up do not have this issue. Even older cars in a lot of cases Audi is footing some of the bill for replacements.

Overall both brands have been very reliable with no issues. Both have proven far more reliable than my Infiniti.

Stranger still for me is the fact that these cars have gotten so heavy. Heavier even than the S4 which feels heavy. And the gas mileage no better either. Seems like infiniti is moving backward.

 

I'm ready to see this car in person. Some pictures of this car look great, others it looks bad.

The turbos are cool, but if the weight of the car and tranny slow the car down then it's going to be a facepalm. A TT AWD car should be able to be a monster. Hopefully Infiniti doesn't Fawk this up.

 

Agreed .

 

I like it and I don't like it... it'll probably grow on me
Thanks for the picture!

 

You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. It wasn't just the megatronics in the transmission but also the side gaskets leaking which requires the removal of the entire transmission to replace them. That isn't cheap. A few grand I believe. And there's no guarantee it won't happen again. Almost forgot the throttle actuators which habitually go bad @ $700 a pop. There's two. Can bus issues too. E93 tops that don't work or have issues (there was a recall on the actuator wires or whatever they're called) and require constant, vigilant care. Other than that, the bearing issues and a few other minor niggles, the car is pretty reliable if you get a "good one". The 335's, especially the early ones, suffer from so many issues it isn't funny including fuel pumps that'll shut off and stop the car in the middle of the highway. Been there personally.

The Audis. I love Audi. The Metatronics issue seems to be sporadic at best but it's not a cheap fix. The carbon buildup issue isn't a warranty repair and the dealerships generally don't fix it or even look at it unless it causes an issue and trips a code. So you generally have to suck it up and enjoy the loss in power or pay an Indy shop to clean it. If you're out of warranty, it's about a $1000 to pull it, clean it and reinstall. All of their direct injection engines suffer from it in various degrees including the R8. If I remember correctly, there was one other issue with the 2012 S4's that was supposedly solved in the 2013 model year, maybe it was the thermostat but I thought there was no change in the actual part number. I would agree as a whole the DSG is rugged from a purely mechanical standpoint, seems to have less issues overall than BMW's DCT. The amount of pure BS people put up with (myself included) with BMW is borderline insane.

My last Infiniti received basic maintenance and I only had one failure, the thermostat, in 150K miles of ownership. $300 at a stealership to fix because I was three plus hours from home. I could have fixed it myself in an hour for less than $30 if I'd been at home.

Infiniti has typically been much less complex mechanically than either Audi or BMW and I would find it very, very hard to believe, generally, they're less reliable than any of the big three Germans and even VW.

 

My bros 335 waterpump went out and leaking headgasket at less than 60k