Hello, So I have been back and forth on what my next car is going to be and every time I keep coming back to the G37. What I want is a mid/full size car, AWD, good handling, and an engine that I can really build up. (open to suggestions) I want an upwards of 500-1000hp. I am a college student getting ready to graduate as a nurse and I have no problem putting in every last cent i make into a car. I will make around 90k/year as a grad nurse and can easily afford 50k in performance in the first year alone. i did fine on top ramen and banquet meals in order to afford modding my other cars when i was only making 40k/year. My only passion in life is to build performance cars. i hope this is enough to express how serious i am about this.

I don't want the sti/evo, they are too small, and are driven by pimply 17 year olds.
I was very interested in the s5 but decided its not fast enough f/i or no f/i. its just too large and heavy and there is a glass ceiling in terms of performance. Not enough out there. I was disappointed in the reliability and performance of the handful of f/i s5's out there.

I really want to buy the Hyundai Genesis coupe, mainly because it looks beautiful, has a solid engine, but it only comes in RWD.

I don't want a RWD car with 500+ HP. i hate that squirrely feeling, been there done that with a twin turbo c5. I like being able to put my foot down without sling shotting my back end out into no-mans-land and then needing to sit on a filthy couch at the dealership waiting for a new set of tires every 3-4 months... im just done with that.. no more street sleds. i want a car that can hang in the corners without the need to slide sideways.

so the g37x fits well with what i want for a platform. HOWEVER... I have looked and looked and looked and i cannot find an awd G37x that has been modified with any significant power increases. I am hoping this is because there are no bolt on f/i kits available for it and not because of the drive train. I am not interested in bolt on kits and will not wait for one, I will have a twin turbo kit custom installed the very week i buy the car, fully rebuilt engine (very interested in that 1200hp thread) ect.. the question is not the engine, if it will fit, can it handle the power ect.. money easily makes this possible and reliable. My question is the drive train. are there aftermarket transmissions for the awd g37 i can swap in that will handle this kinda power? I don't feel like a rebuild would be sufficient (i could be wrong, i know there are cars that can handle 800-1000hp on a rebuilt stock trans). this seems like a specific modification that has no market, and my google searches have proven fruitless. This is going to be a deal breaker for me if i can't make the AWD system reliable with what i want to do with the car.

am i worried about nothing? can anyone shed some light? I don't know the first thing about modifying these kind of cars. this will be a new project entirely. its been american muscle in the past and there are always performance made parts to replace anything from the flywheel to the little plastic covers that goes over your door locks.

 

You will not get 500-1000 HP reliably out of virtually any AWD car. The transfer case would grenade itself first.

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The obvious solution is to not waste your time on mods and just get a GT-R.

 

Up to 1,000 hp? Our drivetrain can't handle that. That's 3 times what it's supposed to have. You don't want a G37.

Considering the Hyundai Genesis? Yea ok, that's a totally different vehicle and you shouldn't cross shop the two. You won't appreciate the G37 if you're considering a Genesis. You don't want a G37.

Can't find one modified up to 1,000 hp? That's because the Infiniti crowd doesn't do that. You want the Nissan crowd. You don't want a G37.

Your searches are fruitless because you don't want a G37. That's not what the G37 does. You're looking in the wrong place. You don't want a G37.

Ok, listen. You're obviously a muscle car person and even though I hate just about everything muscle car related, I'm going to help you. Muscle cars are cool, they do awesome in a straight line. You don't get that out of an import. You just don't. Imports are a totally different breed of vehicle. They're not about being a d-bag at every red light. The imports are more focused on handling and keeping your *** out of the ditch rather than leaving rubber on the road. Very few keep up with good muscle cars in a straight line, but just about every one of them gets you around a track (or around town) faster.

There is one car you may actually be interested in though. It's not your typical import, but it is imported. It's not the G37, but it's kinda still a G. It's the GT-R. It's Nissan's supercar, and I can assure you, it will please you. It's also not as expensive as you think. Unfortunately, it's got a Nissan badge, and doesn't really look as cool a Viper or an old Stingray, but it's got what you want. It is, without a doubt, the fastest car in the world for less than 6 figures brand new. It will beat the Bugatti Veyron in a quarter mile. It will make your twin turbo'd c5 look like a clumsy little girl. And it will do it all on your way to church Sunday morning. So once again, you don't want a G37, you want a GT-R.

Don't believe me? Check out this link.
World's Greatest Drag Race! - YouTube

 

What is your past experience building cars? A resume would work

This is neither financially sound nor does it sound very realistic.

With your above outlined plans, you'll need all of this from day one:
- A built block
- A built trans
- built differencials
- built driveshaft
- cooling to support 1200hp (remember, 1200hp will make roughly 16x the heat of the stock engine)
- A way to defeat VVEL and/or a VQ35HR top end hybrid of sorts
- Clutch
- engine management
- cams
- exhaust
- turbos and manifolds
- oil coolers

That's just the beginning.

If you seriously think you can build that level of car for 50k, you're dreaming.


The most cost effective option would be for you to purchase a P-car or lambo as your base, and build that. I figure 200k-400k depending on car choice is a realistic budget. Additionally, you'll want to have 40-60k around liquid as a "oh ****" fund, because things WILL go wrong. There is no "mid or full size AWD car capable of 1200hp".

You sound like a kid who thought putting a turbo on a gutted civic with 280whp and thought he was the ****.

 

From what you stated, I don't think a G37 is the right car for you. Good luck with whichever car you end up with.

 

My advice...wake up!

 

Luke has used the Force...

 

this is where i disagree. The nissan skyline was an amazing car. easily can handle 1000+hp. But you missed my point, I am not concerned with the engine. You can do anything you want with an engine. Its the transmission in this car that i don't know about.

second you CAN get these kind of numbers from a g37, I have seen many videos of g37's dyno in the 500-600whp range. so you can't say it can't be done. Because it is done, there is proof of that.

anyone can build an engine to handle 25-30psi and for 50 grand (which i never said was my limit) you can do it!!

also i would like to say, that i don't want a supercar, I can see spending 100k on building your own car, i can't see spending 100k to get a car.. i guess i draw the line there... maybe when im old and grey or something.. I want a sleeper.. an unsuspecting supercar.

the question is not can i produce this power with some level of reliability, i already know it can be done. if you don't believe me look it up. the question is what can i do to the trans to support the power. If the answer is nothing then fine, i guess ill go look for a different car.. like i said im open to suggestions.

and yes, i tried the muscle car thing and it gets old going in a straight line, i agree with you. Which is why i am trying to broaden my horizons.

 

There is no such thing ias a 1000hp sleeper. The car will be loud and burbly whether you like it or not.

You need to get some seat time in some high dollar cars. It's easy to say that you can make a 370z faster than a 911 with 10k. The fact remains that the 911 is still a superior car. There are qualities to expensive cars that cannot be quantified on paper, as well as those that are not typically disclosed.

There are a lot of wealthy people in the world, and there is a reason that they don't build cheap cars to those levels.

You don't build a machine gun starting with a pistol.

A Nissan RB26 easily handling 1000+ hp? Clearly, you have ZERO experience with cars in that power range.

PSI has nothing to do with flow.

Stop reading things on the internet and do things for yourself.

What car have you built in the past?

If you're tired of going fast in a straight line, why do you want so much power?

If you're out in SoCal, you're welcome to join me at the track to see what a well balanced car can do. I'll be at WSIR (a.k.a. "the fastest in the west") next weekend. I promise you my low hp car will have no problem turning in faster lap times than cars with 2x or more its power, even though this track has the highest average speed of any track west of the Mississippi.

 

ok maybe i am overzealous with my numbers. i could be happy with 600-700 which i know is achievable because others HAVE done it.. why can't i do it too? a general rule of thumb i've found is you can double HP numbers from stock with f/i alone, (of coarse with) a fully built and bored engine you can add whatever that will make to the 200% stock power. which puts this car right around 600-700 hp to the wheels. why are you guys knocking on me for wanting something others have already done? the only difference is i wanna do it in the awd version. If its not possible to get that power through the drive train than fine, but that is my question

lastly, wtf is this!!! lol

 

You're not paying attention to what we're telling you.

Yes, you can get 1,000 hp out of the engine in a G37. Those vehicles are called Dyno Queens. That's all they're good for, looking pretty on a Dyno and being prissy little girls.

Yes, you can rebuild the entire driveline so that it can handle the power your new superengine is putting out. At this point, you'd have replaced the engine, drivetrain, and gone with much much wider wheels, so you've also done some body work to make them fit, and you've spent twice your budget already. Tuners aren't muscle cars. You don't just dump more fuel into these things to make them better, you have to work at it, and it's not cheap work.

No, you're not trying to broaden your horizons. You're trying to bring the standard musclehead mentality into the tuner scene and you're going to get laughed out of it for it. If you want to broaden your horizons, take our advice instead of trying to tell the people who have been doing it for years and years and know better, that they're doing it wrong and should be doing it like a musclehead. I keep saying that you don't want a G37 because (listen carefully) YOU DON'T WANT A G37! This is not the right vehicle for you based purely on what you've said in your two posts. The only vehicle that I can think of that comes even remotely close to what you're looking for is the Nissan GT-R. You will be impressed with it, and most people won't know you're any faster than a Camry. Yea, some people know about the GT-R, but most will mistake you for an Evo anyway. Until you fly past them of course.

 

Oh, and that little bouncing thingy is Domo

 

That is Domo....and he will f*ck you up.

 

I built a twin turbo corvette c5. with 12k I made 535 to the wheels and it was built like a rock. But sold it to pay for school cause i still owed 7k on it ( i know don't give me crap for spending more on performance parts than i owed- i couldn't help it) and bought a nissan maxima (my rainy day vehicle) i mainly ride my 07 kawi zx6r.