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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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^^^+1 Are you a midget or something? No offense if you are...
I am a 5'2" female. - look up my vids on YouTube - user: 37drift
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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damn that is nice she works on her own car.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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I can reach the passenger seatbelt arm to raise it to stop the rattle and have to do it frequently; it is annoying.

I concur with others that the seatbelt is designed to work without this $3 mod. In fact, I would consider it dangerous for one of 2 reasons.

1. It will probably break during an accident or permit your body to keep moving after the impact while it slides out of the way under force.
2. If it it holds in the position shown, your body will twist as the restraint is not well centered on the body.

IMO, just stay away from these gadgets.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 04:56 AM
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Haha I'm not tall either. I'm only 5'5 but i wear a lot dress shirts cause of work and I just tuck the beat belt underneath my collar =). It prevents it from digging into my neck =).
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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LOL, this is the most retarded invention ever... I can't believe they haven't been sued yet... I guess it's just a matter of time!

And yes, I agree with our resident biomechanical engineer friend... changing the location of the belt would alter the timing of the interaction of the body with the airbag, thus placing you out of position, and hence causing additional injuries.

I've found that snapping the belt into place by raising the arm until it clicks does the trick with any noise on the passenger side. On the driver's side, after I get in, I just lower the arm slightly and it goes into position across my shoulder (and not around my neck). Is it seriously all that difficult?
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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LOL, this is the most retarded invention ever... I can't believe they haven't been sued yet... I guess it's just a matter of time!

And yes, I agree with our resident biomechanical engineer friend... changing the location of the belt would alter the timing of the interaction of the body with the airbag, thus placing you out of position, and hence causing additional injuries.

I've found that snapping the belt into place by raising the arm until it clicks does the trick with any noise on the passenger side. On the driver's side, after I get in, I just lower the arm slightly and it goes into position across my shoulder (and not around my neck). Is it seriously all that difficult?
1. It's not retarded. Unsafe? Perhaps it is but this is not proven, regardless of what theoretically may happen in an accident based off of a conclusion of someone who took a class.

2. Snapping the belt into place by raising the arm until it clicks does do the trick, but I don't want to have to do it every time it is placed in the down position by a rear passenger. I'd rather leave it down and if it is place up by a front passenger, fine. How difficult is it to stick a piece of felt onto a surface?

3. Lowering the arm slightly? I've tried that, a gazillion times. It clicks back in the upright and locked position fairly easily. It is not a matter of being difficult. It's literally a pain in the neck.

I ride a Sportsbike so having my seatbelt in my car in a not-so proper (possibly but not proven less safe) position doesn't bother me a bit, but the seatbelt cutting into my neck while I'm driving does.

BTW, do you know when you speed down the highway that you are shaving fractions of critical seconds off of your response time? This can be the difference between life and death. Speed is the most retarded thing ever . Anybody want to start a class action against Infiniti for making a car that is capable of exceeding the posted speed limit?
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Coupe Daddy
1. It's not retarded. Unsafe? Perhaps it is but this is not proven, regardless of what theoretically may happen in an accident based off of a conclusion of someone who took a class.

2. Snapping the belt into place by raising the arm until it clicks does do the trick, but I don't want to have to do it every time it is placed in the down position by a rear passenger. I'd rather leave it down and if it is place up by a front passenger, fine. How difficult is it to stick a piece of felt onto a surface?

3. Lowering the arm slightly? I've tried that, a gazillion times. It clicks back in the upright and locked position fairly easily. It is not a matter of being difficult. It's literally a pain in the neck.

I ride a Sportsbike so having my seatbelt in my car in a not-so proper (possibly but not proven less safe) position doesn't bother me a bit, but the seatbelt cutting into my neck while I'm driving does.

BTW, do you know when you speed down the highway that you are shaving fractions of critical seconds off of your response time? This can be the difference between life and death. Speed is the most retarded thing ever . Anybody want to start a class action against Infiniti for making a car that is capable of exceeding the posted speed limit?
1. Stand by my original statement... retarded and unsafe!!! And trust me, that guy actually got it right... I defend lawsuits, some of which involve the use/non-use/improper use of seatbelts, and I've had many biomechanical engineers give the same opinion... the restraint system works along with the airbags in order to prevent injury. Throw it off by a few milliseconds, and you're out of position for the impact, and thus, introduce a new mechanism of injury. Believe me if you will...

2. No problem... do what floats your boat.

3. As far as speed... it does nothing to your reaction time. Your reaction time differs from person to person and is typically 1.5-2.5 seconds. It's the time it takes your hand/foot to react to what your brain just saw. What speed does is increases your momentum, thus your braking distance, along with your delta V (change in velocity once you actually hit something). What I think you mean to say is that the distance you travel at a higher speed is longer over the same period of time, thus you are less likely to have time to do anything about it... If your change in velocity is too great, you get injured. I hope you can understand it's a oversimplified explanation, but once again, believe me if you will.

And the class action thing... good try, yet once again faulty reasoning. There is nothing wrong with Infiniti making a vehicle go in excess of the speed limit. It's up to the individual driver to use his/her judgment and drive the speed they feel necessary. Some people prefer to go to the track... my point is that there is a legal way for that speed to be used safely (on the track). I really don't see a product that by its design makes it more likely you would get hurt if involved in an accident is anything similar... where's the proper use of it? When you're sitting in your car in a parking lot? Come on now...

I think it's a retarded idea (my opinion)... you don't (your opinion)...
Go ahead and buy it, use it... I'd rather be safe than sorry!

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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by marsb007
1. Stand by my original statement... retarded and unsafe!!! And trust me, that guy actually got it right... I defend lawsuits, some of which involve the use/non-use/improper use of seatbelts, and I've had many biomechanical engineers give the same opinion... the restraint system works along with the airbags in order to prevent injury. Throw it off by a few milliseconds, and you're out of position for the impact, and thus, introduce a new mechanism of injury. Believe me if you will...

2. No problem... do what floats your boat.

3. As far as speed... it does nothing to your reaction time. Your reaction time differs from person to person and is typically 1.5-2.5 seconds. It's the time it takes your hand/foot to react to what your brain just saw. What speed does is increases your momentum, thus your braking distance, along with your delta V (change in velocity once you actually hit something). What I think you mean to say is that the distance you travel at a higher speed is longer over the same period of time, thus you are less likely to have time to do anything about it... If your change in velocity is too great, you get injured. I hope you can understand it's a oversimplified explanation, but once again, believe me if you will.

And the class action thing... good try, yet once again faulty reasoning. There is nothing wrong with Infiniti making a vehicle go in excess of the speed limit. It's up to the individual driver to use his/her judgment and drive the speed they feel necessary. Some people prefer to go to the track... my point is that there is a legal way for that speed to be used safely (on the track). I really don't see a product that by its design makes it more likely you would get hurt if involved in an accident is anything similar... where's the proper use of it? When you're sitting in your car in a parking lot? Come on now...

I think it's a retarded idea (my opinion)... you don't (your opinion)...
Go ahead and buy it, use it... I'd rather be safe than sorry!
meh, I'm not going to argue my opinion. It's just an opinion.
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by marsb007
1. Stand by my original statement... retarded and unsafe!!! And trust me, that guy actually got it right... I defend lawsuits, some of which involve the use/non-use/improper use of seatbelts, and I've had many biomechanical engineers give the same opinion... the restraint system works along with the airbags in order to prevent injury. Throw it off by a few milliseconds, and you're out of position for the impact, and thus, introduce a new mechanism of injury. Believe me if you will...

2. No problem... do what floats your boat.

3. As far as speed... it does nothing to your reaction time. Your reaction time differs from person to person and is typically 1.5-2.5 seconds. It's the time it takes your hand/foot to react to what your brain just saw. What speed does is increases your momentum, thus your braking distance, along with your delta V (change in velocity once you actually hit something). What I think you mean to say is that the distance you travel at a higher speed is longer over the same period of time, thus you are less likely to have time to do anything about it... If your change in velocity is too great, you get injured. I hope you can understand it's a oversimplified explanation, but once again, believe me if you will.

And the class action thing... good try, yet once again faulty reasoning. There is nothing wrong with Infiniti making a vehicle go in excess of the speed limit. It's up to the individual driver to use his/her judgment and drive the speed they feel necessary. Some people prefer to go to the track... my point is that there is a legal way for that speed to be used safely (on the track). I really don't see a product that by its design makes it more likely you would get hurt if involved in an accident is anything similar... where's the proper use of it? When you're sitting in your car in a parking lot? Come on now...

I think it's a retarded idea (my opinion)... you don't (your opinion)...
Go ahead and buy it, use it... I'd rather be safe than sorry!
First let me say Coupe Daddy, you are a genius and thank you for randomly looking at things while you are shopping. I tend to get tunnel vision and would have totally missed this item. I am 5 7 and was about to trade in my car and take bath because I could not take this anymore.

Now as for it being unsafe... what is unsafe is improperly wearing a seat belt... you know.. like when it is across your neck... LOL The fact that it now fits properly or close to it will provide much more stability in a crash instead of hurting your neck.

Lastly for the PhD with the mail order mechanical engineering degree, seat belts, like all mass produced times are made for the masses and thus have a range of effectiveness. Researchers and engineers compensate for the various body types (i.e 5 2 female, 6 2 male) otherwise they would not be able to safely mass produce. marsb007 count yourself lucky that you don't have this problem.

Thanks again Coupe Daddy, I am on my way to Walmart now
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by miamiboy35
First let me say Coupe Daddy, you are a genius and thank you for randomly looking at things while you are shopping. I tend to get tunnel vision and would have totally missed this item. I am 5 7 and was about to trade in my car and take bath because I could not take this anymore.

Now as for it being unsafe... what is unsafe is improperly wearing a seat belt... you know.. like when it is across your neck... LOL The fact that it now fits properly or close to it will provide much more stability in a crash instead of hurting your neck.

Lastly for the PhD with the mail order mechanical engineering degree, seat belts, like all mass produced times are made for the masses and thus have a range of effectiveness. Researchers and engineers compensate for the various body types (i.e 5 2 female, 6 2 male) otherwise they would not be able to safely mass produce. marsb007 count yourself lucky that you don't have this problem.

Thanks again Coupe Daddy, I am on my way to Walmart now
Wow. Who said anything about a PhD? Mail-order?! My school, Kettering University, is a tier 1 engineering school. The undergraduate mechanical engineering program is ranked 3rd in the nation. What are you doing with your life that puts you in the position to knock my degree or my education? From what I can tell, you're not in the position to do so. You don't know me. But whatever, I guess you run into haters everyday.

I simply responded to a question asked by another member. Take it as you will. Notice how I said "in my opinion?" I figured I would be helpful and answer a question. Wear the damn clip. It may not make a difference. I've never tested it or had any experience with it. Hell, I don't even know what it's made out of. Maybe it'll break away during a crash if it's a brittle plastic. I hope it never happens to anyone but, if anyone ever crashes with one of these things on, let us know how it held up. I would like to know.

Of course industries design their products around the average person. Typically the auto industry designs around the 50th percentile with a little wiggle room (Adjustable seats, belt height on the vertical pillar, and adjustable pedals). Tell me you wouldn't make a product that catered to the broadest group of the population. That's just business, and smart business at that. When you find a way to cater to every single person, let me know. I can help you out with a patent using my mail-order patent law degree I'm about to order. We could make a killing. Gs for everyone!

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