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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 08:32 AM
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This is all I got.

Mode $06 report generated by Torque for Android
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Vehicle VIN: JN1CV6AR5DM768234
Vehicle Manufacturer: Nissan
Vehicle Calibration ID: 13LW5A

GH1065

V3EV0A

Test report:
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MID:$02 TID:$07
Minimum sensor Voltage for test cycle(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 0.17V Min: 0V
Test result value: 0.17V
PASS
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MID:$02 TID:$08
Maximum sensor Voltage for test cycle(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 2.55V Min: 0.7V
Test result value: 0.71V
PASS
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MID:$02 TID:$80
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 1.19V Min: 0V
Test result value: 0.08V
PASS
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MID:$02 TID:$81
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 2.55V Min: 0.48V
Test result value: 0.59V
PASS
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MID:$02 TID:$82
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 3.9S Min: 0S
Test result value: 0.8S
PASS
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MID:$06 TID:$07
Minimum sensor Voltage for test cycle(calculated) - O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 0.17V Min: 0V
Test result value: 0.17V
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$08
Maximum sensor Voltage for test cycle(calculated) - O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 2.55V Min: 0.7V
Test result value: 0.7V
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$80
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 1.19V Min: 0V
Test result value: 0.08V
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$81
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 2.55V Min: 0.48V
Test result value: 0.59V
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$82
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 3.9S Min: 0S
Test result value: 0.8S
PASS
----
MID:$21 TID:$80
- Catalyst Monitor Bank 1
Max: 255 Min: 10
Test result value: 25
PASS
----
MID:$21 TID:$82
- Catalyst Monitor Bank 1
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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MID:$22 TID:$80
- Catalyst Monitor Bank 2
Max: 255 Min: 10
Test result value: 23
PASS
----
MID:$22 TID:$82
- Catalyst Monitor Bank 2
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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MID:$35 TID:$80
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Max: 13° Min: -13°
Test result value: 3.5°
PASS
----
MID:$35 TID:$82
-
Max: 13° Min: -13°
Test result value: 0°
PASS
----
MID:$35 TID:$84
-
Max: 499ms Min: 0ms
Test result value: 108ms
PASS
----
MID:$35 TID:$85
-
Max: 10,779ms Min: 0ms
Test result value: 50ms
PASS
----
MID:$36 TID:$80
-
Max: 13° Min: -13°
Test result value: 2°
PASS
----
MID:$36 TID:$82
-
Max: 13° Min: -13°
Test result value: 0.5°
PASS
----
MID:$36 TID:$84
-
Max: 499ms Min: 0ms
Test result value: 129ms
PASS
----
MID:$36 TID:$85
-
Max: 2,379ms Min: 0ms
Test result value: 10ms
PASS
----
MID:$3c TID:$81
- EVAP Monitor (0.040")
Max: 32.767kPa Min: 0.43kPa
Test result value: 0.457kPa
PASS
----
MID:$3c TID:$82
- EVAP Monitor (0.040")
Max: 32.767kPa Min: 0.1kPa
Test result value: 32.767kPa
PASS
----
MID:$3d TID:$83
- EVAP Monitor (0.020")
Max: 655.34998V Min: 0.02V
Test result value: 0.04V
PASS
----
MID:$41 TID:$81
- O2 Heater Monitor Bank 1 - Sensor 1
Max: 4.779V Min: 0.39V
Test result value: 1.155V
PASS
----
MID:$42 TID:$80
- O2 Heater Monitor Bank 1 - Sensor 2
Max: 4.71V Min: 0.24V
Test result value: 1.56V
PASS
----
MID:$45 TID:$81
- O2 Heater Monitor Bank 2 - Sensor 1
Max: 4.779V Min: 0.39V
Test result value: 1.175V
PASS
----
MID:$46 TID:$80
- O2 Heater Monitor Bank 2 - Sensor 2
Max: 4.71V Min: 0.24V
Test result value: 1.44V
PASS
----
MID:$81 TID:$80
- Fuel System Monitor Bank 1
Max: 130.98999% Min: 77.00999%
Test result value: 104.29%
PASS
----
MID:$81 TID:$81
- Fuel System Monitor Bank 1
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
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MID:$82 TID:$80
- Fuel System Monitor Bank 2
Max: 130.98999% Min: 77.00999%
Test result value: 109.14%
PASS
----
MID:$82 TID:$81
- Fuel System Monitor Bank 2
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$a2 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 1 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a2 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 1 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 1Count
PASS
----
MID:$a3 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 2 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a3 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 2 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 1Count
PASS
----
MID:$a4 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 3 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a4 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 3 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 1Count
PASS
----
MID:$a5 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 4 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a5 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 4 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a6 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 5 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 1Count
PASS
----
MID:$a6 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 5 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a7 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 6 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 32Count
PASS
----
MID:$a7 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 6 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----


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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 10:59 AM
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That was helpful.
It shows the long term fuel trims for bank 1 are around 4% rich and bank 2 is 9% rich.
This report doesn't show the short term fuel trim, so we don't know the "total fuel trim"
(Total fuel trim = short term + long term)

In your case the ECM is adding at least 9% more fuel to bank 2. - This is on the high side of normal.

Scan for codes again, you should have a "pending" or "permanent" code still in memory - if you do, please post it.

To view the "freeze frame" in Torque:
• Touch Fault Codes
• Touch "menu / 3 dots" in the top right
• Select Freeze Frame
• Post it here for review
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicVQ
That was helpful.
It shows the long term fuel trims for bank 1 are around 4% rich and bank 2 is 9% rich.
This report doesn't show the short term fuel trim, so we don't know the "total fuel trim"
(Total fuel trim = short term + long term)

In your case the ECM is adding at least 9% more fuel to bank 2. - This is on the high side of normal.

Scan for codes again, you should have a "pending" or "permanent" code still in memory - if you do, please post it.

To view the "freeze frame" in Torque:
• Touch Fault Codes
• Touch "menu / 3 dots" in the top right
• Select Freeze Frame
• Post it here for review
Ok I downloaded OBDIIfusion app n also used my torque app but nothing came back for pending or permanent codes also noting cane up for the freeze frame, on the torque app I have paid for the extra parameters for infiniti but didnt get it for fusion as I'm not sure if it would make a difference.
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 01:16 PM
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As for the codes and freeze frame, thanks for trying

Use OBDFusion and run a diagnostic report. This will capture everything and organize it into a logical report.
Feel free to share it with me via PM or post it here.

Here is a short video on how to run the diagnostic report:
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicVQ
As for the codes and freeze frame, thanks for trying

Use OBDFusion and run a diagnostic report. This will capture everything and organize it into a logical report.
Feel free to share it with me via PM or post it here.

Here is a short video on how to run the diagnostic report:
https://youtu.be/ewNJDpWCKe4
Bro, thanks for all the help man I really appreciate it. Once I get back into my car I'll run the diagnostic n post back.
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Redgoyabean
Bro, thanks for all the help man I really appreciate it. Once I get back into my car I'll run the diagnostic n post back.
Anytime... I love this stuff and like to try to help
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Old Oct 27, 2019 | 11:12 PM
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I ran the diagnostic n I got back nothing.




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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 08:46 AM
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I would like to have a look at the full report. If you are willing, touch the menu (...) and email it to yourself.
Then you can open the email and copy paste it here, or send it to me via private message.

What problem are you trying to fix?
In your first post, you mentioned that "the car went into limp mode due to a misfire"
• What was the symptom the made you think the car was in limp mode?
• Why do you think a misfire caused limp mode.
• Do you know what spark plugs were put in? (factory recommend plug is good for 105,000 miles)
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicVQ
I would like to have a look at the full report. If you are willing, touch the menu (...) and email it to yourself.
Then you can open the email and copy paste it here, or send it to me via private message.

What problem are you trying to fix?
In your first post, you mentioned that "the car went into limp mode due to a misfire"
• What was the symptom the made you think the car was in limp mode?
• Why do you think a misfire caused limp mode.
• Do you know what spark plugs were put in? (factory recommend plug is good for 105,000 miles)
I replaced my spark plugs when 20k miles back just for preventive maintenance, when the car went into limp mode maybe last week I had brought it to my mechanic n he said the spark plug in cylinder 6 is bad n needed to be changed. I never experienced limp mode in the g37 before so when it happen my mind was racing a mile a minute. I never thought to open torque n see what was going on because no CEL came on. When I got the car from the mechanic everything was fine n is still fine but just out of curiosity I opened torque app n check the fault codes n 2 came up. I can only remember 1 n it said something about a misfire which I'm assuming was caused by a bad spark plug. So the day I got the car back me n my wife took a nice hour drive to bear mountain, during the drive I was running the torque app the whole drive back n forth. The result stated misfires in multiple cylinders n that's when I came to the forum in search of info.
I used factory sparks n when the car went into limp mode she wouldn't go over like 3k rpm n if I tried to give it power the car would start to jerk hard. So I'm trying to figure out if my car is still misfiring per the torque app. Or if I'm reading **** wrong.
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicVQ
I would like to have a look at the full report. If you are willing, touch the menu (...) and email it to yourself.
Just posted it.
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Old Oct 28, 2019 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Redgoyabean
Just posted it.
Thank you for this!

The total amount of fuel correction (also known as fuel trim) is the short term + the long term.
In your case bank 1 equals: 9.38+3.12 = 12.50%
and bank 2 is: 7.81 + 5.47 = 13.28%

This tells us your ECM is adding 12-13% extra fuel to achieve the proper fuel ratio of about 14.7 pounds of air for every pound of fuel at idle.
From what I have seen on the G37 / 370z (or the VQ37VHR) this is a little more fuel correction than I would expect.

Generally a total fuel trim of -10% to +10% is considered good and -15% to +15% is acceptable by Nissan.

The good new is that your car's fuel trim seems to be in the "ok" range.

I suggest you keep driving the car, and if it goes into limp mode or a CEL comes on, run and save the diagnostic report.
Then you can compare this one (which is good) to that one.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicVQ
Thank you for this!

The total amount of fuel correction (also known as fuel trim) is the short term + the long term.
In your case bank 1 equals: 9.38+3.12 = 12.50%
and bank 2 is: 7.81 + 5.47 = 13.28%

This tells us your ECM is adding 12-13% extra fuel to achieve the proper fuel ratio of about 14.7 pounds of air for every pound of fuel at idle.
From what I have seen on the G37 / 370z (or the VQ37VHR) this is a little more fuel correction than I would expect.

Generally a total fuel trim of -10% to +10% is considered good and -15% to +15% is acceptable by Nissan.

The good new is that your car's fuel trim seems to be in the "ok" range.

I suggest you keep driving the car, and if it goes into limp mode or a CEL comes on, run and save the diagnostic report.
Then you can compare this one (which is good) to that one.
I have some mods on the car, ark grip exhaust n takeda cold air intake. Could the mods be causing the extra fuel? N once again thanks for ALL the info. You've been a big help.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 07:34 AM
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2 questions. 1st, would the OBDIIfusion diagnostic report show any misfires n if so did you see any and 2nd, why does the torque test results show misfires. The whole reason for this thread was to try n figure out why the torque app is reporting misfire. Thanks.
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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 09:13 AM
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You are welcome

It's important to keep in mind the fuel trim shown in the diagnostic report are a "snapshot" from when the report was created, in this case at a fully warmed up idle.
When the engine is under a higher load, like on the highway, the fuel trims will be different.

If you want to see what they are during cruise/steady state highway driving, you can use OBDFusion to data log the long and short fuel trims (for both banks), view them in the live graphing mode, or even run the diagnostic report while on the highway. (I have done it many time without any issues - even though the app has a warning)

As I see it, the fuel trims are in the OK range. Can the non-factory intake change the fuel trims? Yes, as the way the air flows around the MAF will be different. Is this bad? Nope! Your fuel trims are in the OK range.

Getting back to the misfires... Both OBDFusion and Torque show the same data from the ECM, but with different names.
OBDFusion uses Mode $06 and Torque uses "Test Results"

Cylinder #1 had 1 misfire, cylinder #3 had 2, cylinder #5 had 2.
These are VERY low counts and nothing to worry about.
When they get up to 65,535 counts, then a check engine light will be tuned on.

So.... relax and drive the car. You now have a saved copy of the diagnostic report which can be helpful for troubleshooting down the road as you have a good point of reference.
If you want to learn more about the different engine sensors (PIDs), here is an excellent video that describes them for our exact engine:

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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 07:35 PM
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I knew i took a screen shot of the code torque gave me after the car went into limp mode.


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