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GTM Performance Engineering Stage 1 Turn key Supercharger kit In house Install

Old Jun 11, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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just take the stock cats, a rod and a hammer and bang the **** out of the honeycomb. free resonated test pipes!
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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At least you proved how free flowing the long headers are =P
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Just go down the street and pick up some HFC's from Tony at FI.

PS...knew this day was coming.

I'm sure you will be more than pleased with the results even with your stockies back on.

PS...you can't have my cats either...so don't even think about it...they are marked!

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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Sorry to hear that shumby

How much did you put down with 4psi though?
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OMG37
PS...knew this day was coming.
Can you please explain?
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shumby
ya with not being able to adjust the timing on the cam the lack of back pressure is causing the pressure to just blow out the exhaust. 4 psi is all we see and that just ain't good enough
I dont understand how that could be bad though, engineering wise it doesn't add up

If the air gets out quicker, that means more air coming in later on can flow in easier in the next cycle
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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I'm thinking the cam timing is off so there is overlap which is reducing pressure. Basically he's not building enough boost before the intake cam closes because it's all escaping too quickly through the exhaust cam due to the reduced backpressure caused by the LTH's when compared to the stock headers. I could be way off.
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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^^^ learn from your friend Sam. I am calling your thermo prof and telling him to give you a D-
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter
I'm thinking the cam timing is off so there is overlap which is reducing pressure. Basically he's not building enough boost before the intake cam closes because it's all escaping too quickly through the exhaust cam due to the reduced backpressure caused by the LTH's when compared to the stock headers. I could be way off.
No you're pretty much on point. With a supercharger kit it's a MUST to have some sort of back-pressure because you're going to end up getting boost drop (as Shumby has seen). I just didn't know it was going to be this substantial.
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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^^^ I don't think any of us did
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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Shumby, are you running a 180 degree thermostat on the oil cooler? If so how did Sam mount everything up with the oil filter relocation kit? I wouldn't stress too much on the 4 psi, Sam will straighten it out. At least you know with some back pressure things will be good.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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^^^ yes i am. itis mounted on a custom bracket behind the oilcooler on the driver side of the car. Ya i know Sam will get it straight.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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ah much bettere today. i am happy
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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ah much bettere today. i am happy
Do tell! What did you end up doing?
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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You keep calling it "timing"... timing is when the spark hits. You need to have control over that too but you're having trouble with overlap. Or at least that is what you think the issue is. You're right in that you could have ultimate control if you could adjust the VVEL. The valve events are the issue you're assuming is the problem right, not the spark timing?
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