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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Looks good. I'm guessing the water lines run into the back of the manifold? From your cad drawings I thought they were in the front.
I think the water lines are going to be in the front, but aren't hooked up yet.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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That is correct, the water lines aren't hooked up for this initial test as the bar and plate intercooler is currently out being fabricated. It is a custom intercooler built to our specs so we're having to wait until the production pieces come in. We're expecting them in the next four or five days.

That is also the reason that we have not released any data about horsepower output or anything like that. We won't have final numbers until we have the final kit tested and ready to go.

We have had the car running and Steve and our head engineer have already been out for a few runs in the car to get a feel for it. We are running the car without the intercooler because there is still alot that we can learn and check before the intercooler arrives...Making sure the belts are aligned properly and there is no slippage, making sure there is no flex in the brackets or anything like that. Also we can begin making our tuning adjustments and playing around with that, which will get us close to our final tune which will be completed when the intercooler is installed.

Plus we have found a couple of things that we don't like and will be changing. For example we have all decided that we want to make some sort of engine cover to clean up the engine bay a little more.

We will have more progress information releasing soon!
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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Lookin good

Whats the anticipated price tag/HP/TQ/Boost for each stage?

Looks like you wont be able to use any kind of strut tower bar with this according to the pic.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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We don't believe in giving estimates...There is a lot that comes into play when developing a supercharger system and Steve Millen's exact words were "I'm not going to tell someone how much power they're going to make unless I know how much power they're going to make."

We have been in this business for nearly 25 years (anniversary in September) and we have seen a lot of companies come and go and a lot of companies post up estimates and release dates and pricing and all kinds of information and it's either wrong, not even close, or they just never come out with something. Take for example Dreamworks with the 350Z. They actually took people's deposits and ran. They literally took deposits on a phantom supercharger which could not possibly be manufactured and they took off with the money.

We will have the information when everything is ready. We're expecting to have that information in the next few weeks.

I hope no one thinks that we're just sitting here keeping tight lipped about this for fun or anything. We want to get this kit out to the public and we want to have all of the information for you. But, we will only release information that we know to be factual after we have completed all of our testing and engineering. Price is important but more important is quality and engineering.

We all really appreciate your enthusiasm and your patience! It is really exciting to see your posts and read your PM's and emails as well as get your phone calls.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle@stillen
We don't believe in giving estimates...There is a lot that comes into play when developing a supercharger system and Steve Millen's exact words were "I'm not going to tell someone how much power they're going to make unless I know how much power they're going to make."

We have been in this business for nearly 25 years (anniversary in September) and we have seen a lot of companies come and go and a lot of companies post up estimates and release dates and pricing and all kinds of information and it's either wrong, not even close, or they just never come out with something. Take for example Dreamworks with the 350Z. They actually took people's deposits and ran. They literally took deposits on a phantom supercharger which could not possibly be manufactured and they took off with the money.

We will have the information when everything is ready. We're expecting to have that information in the next few weeks.

I hope no one thinks that we're just sitting here keeping tight lipped about this for fun or anything. We want to get this kit out to the public and we want to have all of the information for you. But, we will only release information that we know to be factual after we have completed all of our testing and engineering. Price is important but more important is quality and engineering.

We all really appreciate your enthusiasm and your patience! It is really exciting to see your posts and read your PM's and emails as well as get your phone calls.
Completely understood.

Good stuff guys keep hackin away and get it done
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Is this going to require a tune upon installing? Or is it plug and play and go.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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There will be three different kits, two of which will have tunes included.

Option 1 will be the tuner kit- This kit will come with no fuel management of any type, the owner will need to source their own fuel injectors, fuel pump, and tuning solution. For obvious reasons this kit will be less expensive than the production kits. Also, it will not be CARB legal.

Option 2 will be our race kit- This kit will come complete and will be more aggressively tuned and will have a higher level of boost. This kit will more than likely be intended to be used with high octane fuel. It is yet to be determined what exactly will be included in this kit and whether or not there wll be two pullies with two tunes or just one pulley and tune with high boost requiring high octane fuel. Also, you will receive everything you need to complete the installation. This kit will be intended for racing purposes only and will not be street legal.

Option 3 will be our CARB kit- This will be the street legal kit that will come pre-tuned and offer everything you need to complete the installation. We don't know yet when this kit will become available because it really depends on when CARB allows us to test and then verifies our lab results. Could take one month, could take one year...We just don't know.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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I hope the race kit will run about 6k
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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So if going Option 1 we could use a different tuning program? Say Tadashi or UpRev for instance.

Option 1 or 2 + Daily Drive = weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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For Option 1 you could go with whoever you like for the tuning. Standalone, UPrev, or anything else. The choice would be 100% yours!
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle@stillen
Option 2 will be our race kit- This kit will come complete and will be more aggressively tuned and will have a higher level of boost. This kit will more than likely be intended to be used with high octane fuel. It is yet to be determined what exactly will be included in this kit and whether or not there wll be two pullies with two tunes or just one pulley and tune with high boost requiring high octane fuel. Also, you will receive everything you need to complete the installation. This kit will be intended for racing purposes only and will not be street legal.
I like the idea of two pulleys and two tunes. That would be great to have some versatility. Can you say anything about the fuel system? What software, flash or chipped ecu, injectors, etc. I am very interested in seeing the final product.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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Kyle would you not offer a version of stage 1 with a fuel management solution and a tune? (Full turn key kit)
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Stillen has been on their "A" game. I can't wait to see installed pictures with dyno numbers!
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Hmmm...so Cali peeps may be outta luck with the Race Kit if it's tuned for higher octane fuel then? 91 Octane FTL, lol!
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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Tune it for higher hp on 91 octane Push it to the limit. So nope not out of luck.
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