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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by g-unit937s
dam with those numbers ...itll be pointless to buy a gtr...
no it wouldnt b/c the G37 would never be able to run a 7:38 on the nurb , it would have to be totally gutted and fitted with everything the GTR has mechanically and eletronically.

plus it would have to be aerodynamic like the GTR which means a totally different body.

the G37 nor any skyline previously built could compare to what the GTR is now.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 240ka turbo
no it wouldnt b/c the G37 would never be able to run a 7:38 on the nurb , it would have to be totally gutted and fitted with everything the GTR has mechanically and eletronically.

plus it would have to be aerodynamic like the GTR which means a totally different body.

the G37 nor any skyline previously built could compare to what the GTR is now.
you cant really say any skyline that was built because there are plenty of power house tuners that have turned out skyline's in different vairents that would easily hand the new GTR its *** on a silver platter. now stock for stock yes your correct....
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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you cant really say any skyline that was built because there are plenty of power house tuners that have turned out skyline's in different vairents that would easily hand the new GTR its *** on a silver platter. now stock for stock yes your correct....
word...cus Z-tune GTR was bada$$ but got spanked badly by mine's R34
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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you cant really say any skyline that was built because there are plenty of power house tuners that have turned out skyline's in different vairents that would easily hand the new GTR its *** on a silver platter. now stock for stock yes your correct....
i konw that the skyline has always been unbeaten and unrivaled by other car makers thats why the rules to enter races kept being changed to keep the skyline from dominating races and later to not even allowing the skyline to perform

but one thing you have to realize about the GTR is that its not about being a power house, its truly about power, balance and areodynamics moe than any previous skyline

for any other skyline to run what the GTR it would have to be totally redone from the ground up. just by puttin ga bunch of power under the hood isnt going to do it.

main thing that would have to change is the shape of the body it would have to be come more sleek so it could slip through the air. not to mention the chassis, sofiticated transmission and the list goes on

so as i said before. no other skyline including the G37/Skyline 350gt will be able to touch it as a track car.

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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you cant really say any skyline that was built because there are plenty of power house tuners that have turned out skyline's in different vairents that would easily hand the new GTR its *** on a silver platter. now stock for stock yes your correct....
I agree my cousin in Chicago has one of the top 3 most powerful and fastest S2000's in the nation. It stays nose to nose with a Lambo Gallardo from 0-70mph and then the lambo pulls away....his s2k is running over 450 WHP with turbo of course...he only spent $12-13k on the mods past sticker price, bargain hunter...who woulda ever thought? anyways point im tryn to make is that with the right tuning you could prob have a G37 that compares to the GT-R in the straight shot, id say give it at least about $15-20k investment though...at that point ur gettin somewhat close to the pricing on the GT-R anyway....especially if u started with a fully loaded G. now i do agree that even still the G would fall short of the GT-R on the tracks...coilovers and sway bars only go so far....

EDIT: I asked him about the race with the Lambo and matter of fact the Lambo never pulled away the race went from 0-approx 80-90ish and his s2k was always right by the Lambo's side fender....!

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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^^^when are you guys going to realize how this GTR differs from the rest. this car is about being a track performer to the fullest degree

just like Niikura Michizo of "Mine's" stated tuners arent going to be getting this car and trying to to get massive amount of hp out of like previou skylines. why do you think Nissan made it tamper proof. for this reason.

this car is to compare with the 911. turners dont get 911's to see how much HP they can crank out of the motors. the cars about being track cars the best track cars. and thats when NIssan wanted out of this car.

http://drive.gtchannel.com/?c=127&a=1139&sp=3

who gives a sh*t about str8 line speed. if you want str8 line speed get a vette or a viper.

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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I agree my cousin in Chicago has one of the top 3 most powerful and fastest S2000's in the nation. It stays nose to nose with a Lambo Gallardo from 0-70mph and then the lambo pulls away....his s2k is running over 450 WHP with turbo of course...he only spent $12-13k on the mods past sticker price, bargain hunter...who woulda ever thought? anyways point im tryn to make is that with the right tuning you could prob have a G37 that compares to the GT-R in the straight shot, id say give it at least about $15-20k investment though...at that point ur gettin somewhat close to the pricing on the GT-R anyway....especially if u started with a fully loaded G. now i do agree that even still the G would fall short of the GT-R on the tracks...coilovers and sway bars only go so far....
Sorry my friend but 450hp is no where near close to the most powerful S2000 in the nation. My S2K on last dyno was 455. there are two other local S2ks that are just over 800.....
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 240ka turbo
^^^when are you guys going to realize how this GTR differs from the rest. this car is about being a track performer to the fullest degree

just like Niikura Michizo of "Mine's" stated tuners arent going to be getting this car and trying to to get massive amount of hp out of like previou skylines. why do you think Nissan made it tamper proof. for this reason.

this car is to compare with the 911. turners dont get 911's to see how much HP they can crank out of the motors. the cars about being track cars the best track cars. and thats when NIssan wanted out of this car.

http://drive.gtchannel.com/?c=127&a=1139&sp=3

who gives a sh*t about str8 line speed. if you want str8 line speed get a vette or a viper.
i understand what you are saying completely. but I am not just talking about adding just hp. I would put the Power House amuse, and top Secret R34
s up against the gtr on the Ring and would bet they would win hands down/ Dont get me wrong the gtr stock is bad *** car but its not the god you are making it out be....
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UNV-IT46
i understand what you are saying completely. but I am not just talking about adding just hp. I would put the Power House amuse, and top Secret R34
s up against the gtr on the Ring and would bet they would win hands down/ Dont get me wrong the gtr stock is bad *** car but its not the god you are making it out be....
and im sure neither of their cars would come close to doing 7:38 on the nurb. unless you have some lap times handy of them test there

and id imagine the Mines Skyline would have a better chance than both Top Secret and Amuse.

it seems alot fasters around the trak than both of those

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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GTR isn't even out yet.. how could we even have this conversation?? it seems unfair and unrealistic to pick sides at this juncture regardless of released specs.

thats like saying the 2010 NSX is faster than the 2008 GTR...! WHO KNOWS!
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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yes we can. the Nissan GTR is real has been tested, being tested, documented proof of iits stats running on the nurb.

on the other hand the 2010 NSX pictures are still sketchs, we havent seen or heard anything about it besides that its supposed to be comingout in 2010.

not a good analogy
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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true that the NSX is still in its primal stages. however, i would take the numbers on the GTR with a grain of salt. Marketing and mis-representaion is a common practice in this industry. we'd have to look at weight and balance on the final production model. a good example, the EVO-X still has a clause that states the numbers on the SST version are still beiing evaluated and the car comes out next month! i agree it will be a close one. but those souped up top secret skylines you guys speak of are in 100K and up price marker minus the anemities. for that dough i would assume they do a damn fine job.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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bro they arent gong to release a watered down GTR after achieving the number it has. after beating the 996 and 997 911, and smacking up the corvette.

its not going to happen. so the numbers can be taken as fact
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 240ka turbo
bro they arent gong to release a watered down GTR after achieving the number it has. after beating the 996 and 997 911, and smacking up the corvette.

its not going to happen. so the numbers can be taken as fact
i hope so.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dzine07
i hope so.
ha yeah me too, but im thinking they arent going to water down. everything up til now would have been made pointles sif they do so which i highly doub they will.

Nissan wants to re-write the rules for a supercar. they arent giong to back track now
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